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Good evening and welcome to the what is
like men's meeting Tuesday Oct twelfth the

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agenda will be seven o'clock
citizens input seven o five will be

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a public airing the T.C.G.

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New Jersey. Request to install seventy six
hundred square feet of underground fiber

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optic cable at seven twenty jackass

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a letter and Bob Cutler. Preservation of
historic documents seven thirty five John

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Gallagher about the blacks memorial
seven fifty five. Roger happy about the

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merchants the planning. Five the planning
board well discussed the classically

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reconstruction. And in the meantime
of new business all business.

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There you. Go.

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Under God indivisible with liberty just.

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At the time and seven o'clock
Is there anyone you have

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a citizens and but. No. Seventy

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five we have

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a public hearing so we have like five
minutes you want to talk about what I mean.

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I welcome the new time manager Oh yes and
you know everyone this is Kevin pay goes

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on your time manager is joining us this
evening and will be for our future meetings

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Welcome thank you it's great to be here
thank you actually been here for. Three

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days all day on Thursday and Friday and all
day today and it's just as bright as I

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thought it was going to be and certainly
an awful lot of challenges awful fast but

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that's great it's great
right. I know that I've

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gotten

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a lot of phone calls and e-mails and
lately are also lots of things I. I'm

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made a little statement that I
could we get. After hearing

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a plea from my mother to support the change
of trick or treating for this yeah to

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Saturday the entire blood felt it was

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a great idea because the additional traffic
in town for the four o'clock Patriots

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game in the interests of
public safety which we as

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a board to protect we voted unanimously to
support the idea I had no idea that that

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vote would be so controversial. I thank
you all for your phone calls of concern

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many of the callers one upset because of
the date change but because of the way it

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was handled and handled in that others who
may have been in displeasure didn't have

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a chance to voice their opinion in hindsight
perhaps we should have asked it to be

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on this week's agenda but I honestly felt
that it was the right choice and never

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imagined that folks would not agree to err
on the side of caution. The calls and

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emails that I've recently received have
been about fifty fifty problem one. We as

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a void cannot cancel it anyhow when
celebrate and I certainly have no right to

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dictate your plans however you must realize
that many holidays have changed over

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the as for public convenience this what was
taken for public safety Personally I'll

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be ready for jacket your design Saturday
and Sunday night. Thank you question on

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that wind up because I was thinking about
that I'm going have my lights out on

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Sunday because I was going to come you
know about you know I mean did you call

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ahead because you know I figure. What does
everyone think of this because if we I

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would like to as leaders encourage having
it just on Saturday because if it leaks

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over into Sunday I think we're. Going to
really defeat our purpose which is to you

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know not have kids out on that street so
I mean I'd encourage you not to have the

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light on Sunday and that well you know
really very strongly so the only the only my

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only. Concern again would be safety that
if if folks are out and about that it's

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going to be back and without lights on and
porches and things you know there's you

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know people get hurt I mean obviously
we've tried to make it as clear as we can

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that we would like it to
be on Saturday that's like

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a training and you know this post is around
I think people have seen them and go I

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think people get it now yeah I'm just you
know like I said I'm just concerned that

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. You know if they're out trick or treaters
out there on Sunday night that they're

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walking around in the dock and. You
know I'm really. You know because

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I'm definitely going to keep it off because
I think it's just so important that you

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know all the leaders you know say you know
one Sunday because it really is pretty

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dangerous I think that but my feeling is I
think that one concern we expressed with

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the person that was coming
up was you're right it's not

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a town holiday we don't write that you
know you know when people do it but the

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concern is can you get the word out so
everyone knows and you know it's been in the

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newspaper you know at least
the report of the Chronicle

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a couple times Channel four five seven ran
at Fox It was in Sports Illustrated in

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this and you know if if you know you are
you know you have to be in it and if so

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you know as I'm learning most of the
people that do call are. In the negative

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people usually don't
call up to say you doing

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a great job so what I've been telling
the people is it's going to happen on

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Saturday because it's

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a safety issue if you can take that energy
in rather than going out Sunday despite

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people or you know I could yeah be ambivalent
to it to show we can do it yeah just

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focus on trying to get the word out I mean
it's everyone's going to know it anyways

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but you know focus on here and doing the
right thing on Saturday and hopefully you

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know gives kids up to me to go someplace
else on Sunday grandparents or another

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town or write you know I do agree that I
think I'm the one who jumped on the motion

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that you know could have been done better
if we were all smarter when the Patriots

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schedule came out we were set on ha that's
how I mean I think oh no it would have

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been

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a different decision but we're human I
think we. Did we really yeah. Like there's

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a game on Halloween we're talking that
something right but we didn't know you know

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I think that the Part one of the parts as
difficult as one of the e-mails we got I

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think everybody got from

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a parent that said I'm responsible for my
own children's safety and what I said to

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the parents is that I really I respect
that but that as members of the Board of

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Selectmen we have

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a responsibility as well and it's our job
to ensure the safety of the children and

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God for. Did just one child were to be
injured on Saturday night and I just say

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well wasn't our fault going
came on Sunday I mean we had

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a responsibility and we know how many
folks going to be in town and we know all

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those things and I think is as as was said
we wanted to be conservative and err on

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the side of being conservative as I said
the one parent that asked me if this was

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legal I said well I don't think we can
legally change any holiday I said but what

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we're trying to do is to alert parents
that we'd like to move it to Saturday for

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safety purposes. And you may live on

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a side of town where you don't see any
traffic but we're responsible for the entire

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town and all the roads and to be safe we
thought it made sense and I said you know

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maybe we should have taken it under advisement
and maybe we should have had it this

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week but my view would have still been the
same when there's doubt regarding safety

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or security we have to err in that in
that site and so therefore it makes more

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sense to have it on a sad it's not
a school night either and it's

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a so there's that it's it just made
sense and I'm sorry that it caused such

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a controversy and I'm sorry that it
caught on like. Like it did but it is

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Al-Amin it's you know it's not when I
change in Christmas it's Halloween it's sad

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the night it's going to be instead of
Sunday there won't be that the problem with

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the football game in the drivers and all
that kind of stuff and I hope that in the

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end people will see that it was

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a good decision and and supported you
know I agree with you and I think all the

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negative e-mails that
I got to really speak

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a lot to the process and that we just
didn't give people the opportunity to be

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heard you know people want to have that
choice and so I've responded saying you

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know obviously this is your choice the
reason was for safety that we are suggesting

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Saturday but certainly you know you can
do what you want to work for your family

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you can do and so I plan on having my
broom polished for both nights and.

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And I wanted to and I have yet to see
that again but I think folks kind of got

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their. Concerns across to
all of us and you know

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you know you know also I mean we just had
citizen input nobody came for anything we

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may sometimes it's good but you know this
is just you know the schedule been set

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since what May June you know shame us for
not doing something earlier but all the

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people that came up and said oh you should
have done this you should have kept it

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on Sunday and that extra police you know
don't you know nobody did anything in

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writing that the group one group came to
us and it thankfully that they did and

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hopefully you know it's not going to happen
again I think on hollowing but if more

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people would come and ask earlier I think
we'd be better off you know probably

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happening twenty thirty
years but I don't. Know.

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OK Thank you. Yes with the.
Legal notice pursuant to

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the requirements of chapter one sixty six
Massachusetts General Laws the board of

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selectmen will conduct a
public hearing at the end of

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a gala junior meeting room town hall
forty Celsius Foxborough Mass on October

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twelfth two thousand and ten at seven
o five upon the application of T.C.G.

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New Jersey Inc one fifty seven Green
Street Foxborough Mass for permission to

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install one fiber optic cable on existing
utility pole and underground conduit

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system for the
telecommunications services upon

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a long across or under the following
public ways in Foxborough Green Street and

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Hampshire street interest party interested
parties are invited to attend but it's

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like when James should develop

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a clerk and this was published one time
on October seventh two thousand and ten.

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Make yourself accountable. Good evening
members of the wood Thanks for having me.

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On he was robbed Hoekstra. I'm out of
twelve to run Spencer Massachusetts

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I'm here on behalf of. New Jersey. Back in

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June eighteenth he was given
permission to construct

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a fiber optic pathway down Hampshire street
to building address number one hundred

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Hampshire Street which is Covidien it's
an existing customer eighteen tees. The

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service that we're providing
the comedian to provides

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a diverse pathway for them for their existing
fiber optic network right now they're

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they're riding on

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a fiber optic cable that ends on West
Street and if anything catastrophic would

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happen to that pole on the corner of West
great Covidien the customer would go down

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hard did lose service so eighteenth he has
given. The monies for us to construct

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a new pathway coming off of Green Street
where eight hundred eighty has there they

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call the notice on one fifty seven
Green Street we're going to construct

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a pathway at the corner of green and
Hampshire underground. Through Foxboro into

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the Mansfield right away and
into Building one hundred S.

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Far we've already. Fully completed the
Mansfield portion out of the customer

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premises and we're now right at the
Foxboro town line. Once we get

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from the Foxboro town line to the corner
of Green Street that's when we'll attach

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the poles to sixty five over one X.

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And then we'll take our existing facilities
over to the one fifty seven Green she

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location. So I'm here tonight to get
your approval for us to construct

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a dock bank in the right away
well place for empty conduits

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for. Any conduit in that dark bank and
will occupy want of them with one fiber

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optic cable that'll provide the service
from one fifty seven green the two one

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hundred Hampshire. All restoration
specifications are going to be coordinated

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through the D.P.W.

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Office for their guidelines. We
strictly followed the Mansfield. D.P.W.

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Guidelines and we want to play the same
guidelines to Foxborough. Questions

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Yeah. You know the town has worked over the
last couple of years and the right away

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by law you know you know this
granting of process this is probably

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a response not particularly to what you're
applying for but the process of how are

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you going to get it read into the by law
it says the applicant comes in front of

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the town and says what they want excess
capacity where it's going and then it goes

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throughout our boards and we're supposed
to be getting written recommendations from

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the Planning Board the building department
highway there's nothing in the packet

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that says anyone's even looked at this and
gave their recommendations another by

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law says we need to base our. Approval
or denial but in this case is most

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likely approval on the review of all our
boards and we don't have anything and

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again this is not you it's not

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a process it's relatively new with the
new bylaws what I want to avoid is

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a next person that comes in and does
something that we made that might not be as

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palatable if we don't ask for the stuff
they're going to say wait and ask for it in

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the last time and I know there's

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a lot of people who work hard in this
violence and I think we've got one sentence

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from Bill passed Bera but nothing from
anybody else so it may be that Mansfield

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D.P.W.

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Requirements but I think we need to kind of
push it back and what's your time schedule

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is going to be for two weeks right now
where we're at the the possible time line

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somewhere that we're ready to go on Monday
if. My contract goes through. Robert

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Swanson's office and gets all these permits
and. Well I would suggest and my my bet

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my absolute time frame is obviously
before the snow flies Yeah I watched the

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November fifteenth comes up I'm not going
to. It's sounds like it may be going to

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mortgage or it may work but maybe move
ahead and get your permit application

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process in at the same time when two weeks
if we can look at this with recommended

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I can not going to vote on this without
having Bob you know the D.P.W.

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And the planning board look at it to say
he sees these pieces Rishi reviewed it

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back in June my site plan and was ready to
move forward with for approval and then

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just as we were getting ready to get to
that process that's when he called over

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here to Sandra I mean Sandra I've been
working diligently to get the right away

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application processed OK so
yeah I just. You know I think

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that's that would. Be obvious to the whole
process with them and unfortunately he's

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been out so we couldn't get
anything in writing we did send

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a memo over there so we didn't get anything
in writing I did talk to here today. He

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doesn't see any issues with it he'll be
bringing forward this trio thing permit no

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you know the usual things they have to get
up on their own where i Phone that Bob

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is working with down on his as

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a planning board reviewed it you know
we've never had the planning board review

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these before Town Council
his review this also. But

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it's never gone before planning another
suggestion that the draft board if you

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might consider. Clearly we've got a
bit of a disconnect here would go by

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a lot of fire certain things and understood
here that we have to really implement

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all that yet and make it

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a practice here in the office and
we've got the Unfortunately the

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functional dilemma good we've created
an expectation not the board good.

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That they'd be able to move forward barring
any unusual circumstances of the board

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would find so suggestion in as much as
what the board really wants is to be sure

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that the bylaws executed in the future.
With the board accept approving us on

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a contingent basis on the form that we do
circulate it to those boards or whatever

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whoever is indicated and provided they
give their favorable recommendation and we

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would not issue the permit until federal
recommendation is given that we would seek

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it very quickly twenty four to forty
basically. That the board then approves it on

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that contingency. Prior to the next
application being filed rules work to ensure

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that the bylaws and whatever review is
supposed to happen we develop some sort of

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a process to be sure that it happens OK
and that way nothing is going to happen

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without the approvals that you want but at
the same time we're not going to need to

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wait two weeks which could be yes especially
with the went to the last thing I want

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to do is hold you up to
date Can I just make

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a suggestion one step further in the by
law the applicants responsible for and we

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just got the email plans

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a few hours ago but Naresh another benefit
and extra capacity and where it's going

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to go so if you can meet the requirements
of here I can I can email or service yeah

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that looks like what is here so I don't
think we've got any time so I think that's

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a good idea one thing I just
want to be sure the board was

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a word in the event of war and just don't
standard did attempt to circulate this

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and I think you are aware the repeat over
directors had some illness issues and

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that it was his first day back so.
He had a functional problem getting

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a review back he was the one who said here
he had seen all this. You know he was

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that we're in right here he's no doubt with
that oh yeah that's why I said it's not

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it's nothing to do with this particular
project I'm looking for the next one that

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comes in that when I
doing something he had

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a set precedence where people work hard for
this by law and it's been you know the

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last two years kind of I sat
there and question that.

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Yeah I think it's you know it's
specific This is planning board B.T.W.

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And building inspectors can get the other
two pieces that would be great that just

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a question for Sandra of
the folks from a T.N.T.

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Sent you

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a letter six weeks ago and in their letter
they say that while they will provide an

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electronic copy of the bylaw that they
believe they're exempt from that section on

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eleven. It would have helped me if
when they claimed that they were

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exempt from compliance this obvious you
talk to count house because he said he

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reviewed it we should have had something
from town council that said he did it

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correct or they were incorrect and I'm
sorry I didn't see it I mean there's

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a lot here maybe did I miss it you know
others that they the same thing that I saw

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it just that you know I don't know whether
they're right or the wrong but if

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a town council looked at it he would tell
you no tell us they're right or the wrong

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and if they're right. Here's what we should
do and if they're wrong he should have

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been

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a letter back to them saying here's why
you're wrong and here's the steps you need

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to make and since the letter was sent
six weeks ago they would and the D.P.W.

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Directionally been off for

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a few weeks we could have avoided this
six weeks ago if there were some better

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coordinated I do so on that point in town
council I thought I read that he had

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responded back that. You know I did read
that I can't find the piece of paper now

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that it was only. Recently Yeah.

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Like I thought I didn't see it in
here but I my little son might have

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a look maybe I got it in the mail. So this
is something that we're going to deal

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with every time

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a public utility comes they're going to
say they're not exempt we're going to say

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we're exempt and I think you taking the
position that you're exempt but you're

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going to do it anyways now I think
the we want the process what

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we want exempt and we are paying the fee
over there over the top by the right thing

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. To do. So. They have

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a little bit they're set up it's

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a little bit different I think it's because
of that I think it's because we're not

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exempt because we're the subsidiary of
one of eighteenth we got a legal thing

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a local side of A.T.T.

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We're providing a service for right is
the legal way so should every is T.C.G.

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New Jersey so. I'm fine with that
with the timing is recommendation

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that we we approve it subject to the
final review so that we keep the process

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moving so I'd support them as
anybody out there anything. Any.

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That you wish. I did today in

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a motion to close the hearing that motion
to close it here so I can have any one

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discussions are going to let you know
I live you know Pauline OK so I.

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Motion to prove T.C.G.

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New Jersey eighteen to request to install
seventy six hundred square feet of

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underground fiber optic cable subject to
approvals by buildings factor planning

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board and highway permits.
If we're going to be

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picky is that they just really review and
make recommendations versus approved. I

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don't but I've been picky but if we're you
know. Approval fine yet it's subject to

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their approval so they don't approve it it
comes back to us and. Now we can it you

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know it was they could recommend no when
we would go ahead and save us and just

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sort of just to read it said thank you
just so the board's just for clarification

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purposes if any of those three entities
for some reason do not approve of this I

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want to I want to reassure the board that
it will not issue and it will come back

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to you right now if there is some modification
and they come up with it has to be

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met and eighteen to you agree then we'll
go ahead next account but if there's

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a major problem that will come back to
you OK I guess really the point is it

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wouldn't be subject to that
subject to them giving everybody

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a positive approval correct

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a positive recommendation
it's you get yet. So. Instead

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of get your. Positive recommendation
what that is and yet make sense.

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Building Inspector Army highway

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you know you Sanders my single point of
contact for all those approvals basically

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touch base with every couple days there to
be our office and we'll we'll coordinate

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with you directly we don't want you having
no run to everybody right now fears.

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Like in

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a second. And. I think you know

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OK thank you thank you very much you know.
Very diligent you're going through the

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bylaws it's a good one is that

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a new bio about it is the painful. OK

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next class flattened by one of the. Minor.

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Injuries. Of a sore you know so
we've last time I know you have

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a late start with the executive session
and I was recruited to start the society

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looks a little bit of it
too but just to give you

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a little history and reason why we've
come here when I became Tucker started

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learning

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a little bit more about historical records
that we have and town. And you know

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finding out what other towns do to protect
their records and. Started talking with

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Jack about you know possible ways of
generating funds or raising funds to meet the

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needs of the town and we've added

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a few things back and forth
and Jack came up with

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a plan that he'd like to present
to you today but just to give you

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a little history. From the town
clerk's perspective we have

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a thousand dollars allotment in our budget
every year that we use towards records

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preservation. The history has been that we
wait five six years to lose enough money

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in there and then we take two or three
books over to. A binder for repair and I

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just wanted to show you one book that we've
had done in the past just so you can

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see what what they actually do so this
this is an index for births from.

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The early one nine hundred and actually
eight hundred fifty five to eight hundred

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ninety seven and they actually take the
records and you can see that some of the

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edges are starting to fall apart on
the book they repair those they D.

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Acidify the paper which is the biggest
problem with paper and it causes the do the

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destruction of the paper and you know the
the cost of something like this would be

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a thousand dollars to repair this one
book. If this book wasn't repaired all of

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this information would be
lost forever so. I have

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a series of books just at my disposal that
we have in the different vaults Sandra

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had several that she discovered
recently one of her vaults it's not

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a show you this book this is some
select means meeting minutes. And there

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from eight hundred ninety eight you can
see the condition of this book it's got

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some mold in stuff growing on the paper
the papers falling apart. So she got

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a quote to repair some of those
books. She had five or six

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volumes there and the total cost just to
conserve the books was over eight thousand

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dollars they also will. Do

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a film of the book The thirty five millimeter
security film or they would scan it

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to CD So there's additional cost involved
with that. At this stage of the game with

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the monies that I'm able to put in reserve
every year there's no real chance to

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scan them to CD or anything like that to
just get the the book preserved so that we

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have it at our access. And Jack you know
Jack looked at several of the books

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understands what I have in town clerk's
office but there's also he has historical

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records at his disposal and so it's

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a concern so at this point I'll let Jack
explain what what he had in mind well

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because several books have been done over
the years when recruitments was Town

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Clerk every time she could cobble together
enough money but she would go as far as

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she could but the point is if we do
nothing. These records are gone I

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mean it's

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a matter of time but just the. Decay of
the paper the fading of the ink whatever

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they're gone so what can we do. There's

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a lot of catching up to do and we can't
begin to keep pace with. The backlog

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where we're just never going to get caught
up to write We're going. What I was

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hoping we could do would be to make or
an unusual commitment perhaps of the

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next town meeting to a sum of
money that would start give us

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a lump sum to work with on preservation
but then if we could build into that

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something like

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a. Small percentage of any
betterment funds you know one have

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a one percent or something of any betterment
funds that come in from any type of

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project where we keep part of that.
To this preservation fund now

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there's no doubt no direct bearing on
any of the tax payers it's not like the

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Community Preservation Act which added.
Percentage just to the tax rate of just

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historic preservation would be part of the
price of doing business in Foxborough So

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that is we legitimately can negotiate
betterments that tiny little bit would go

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toward historic preservation so that
we could we could gain and eventually

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be caught up and stay current one
of the other benefits a D.D.

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Coating of the paper and those things would
preserve what we have if in the process

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we could also have unit there's no need to
have the traffic in and out of this park

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some of these records get

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a lot of traffic from the public it's
surprising and that would not be necessary

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anymore if we were able to ski in them in
the process so this is what we do hope we

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have replaced the handiest records
I mean this starts on day one the

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arrangements made and all the hand waiting
to have the town flicker Brentham the

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first meeting in Foxborough so we could
be coming down and I spent I spent

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many many months in those books and your
go along page by page and one day you

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turn the page and you had drops because as

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a new town clerk and the handwriting is
terrible. You. Have to start all over again

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but but there is such

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a tremendous tremendous. Absent to have
and they they are so helpful to us in

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understanding I think a
lot of people thought

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a lot of our records were lost in the
townhouse fire of one thousand nine hundred

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when it says that we lost nothing because
three years earlier they had agreed the

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expanded the capacity of their safe and
they put everything away every night and.

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When I started writing the German off I
cannae book I could tell I was I was seeing

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stuff that really interesting since had not
visited. So it would be these are these

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are true treasures I think we have

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a big town responsibility and
I was just trying to think of

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a way through number one get enough money
to get started but then replenish system

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keep

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a fund active and you know just one
suggestion would be the betterment plans.

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Where the books and documents stored now
everything's involved. Well the historic

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records are kept involved you know the Vital
Records we are required to keep under

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lock and key anyways but all the other
purpose historic records we have three

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vaults here and town hall where the
records of story. Would it would kind of

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a Funny you thinking about the you would
need to get started well just you know we

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got

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a month multiply up the number of books
and I'm not sure you're not going to want

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to go down in one in one tribe but I
mean if if we could get ten to fifteen

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thousand dollars set aside as

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a starter so that we could start getting
some some things O'Toole deep into the

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companies or do this and then in the
meantime if we could start talking of the

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little tidbits out of the betterment friends
into this this permanent set aside. We

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could be in business and I mean I don't
think there'd be anything to prevent anyone

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from making

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a memorial gift into this thing. That was
one other thing we you know we talked

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about as a possibility someone
want to make a donation or sponsor

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a book or if there are things that we can
work on to you know also add to the fund

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but. We need

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a starting point and that it would just be
difficult to expect the public to do the

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whole thing it gets it's

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a town responsibility and if
they want to help it would be

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a bonus but and it would be an ace
nation memorial donation in quite

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a few instances people would like to be
remembered that way but I just think too

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once people realize what we're
facing and they understand there is

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a way they can that they could help.
They can be surprising sometimes I mean.

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You know that's. So. If you
talk to Randy you know.

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I had

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a nationally talk to him when we when we
had talked about maybe some sponsorship

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and. You know recognize
that I'm not you had

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a huge benefactor command with

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a big donation that you wouldn't get very
far very fast so I did talk to him about

424
00:34:33,09 --> 00:34:39,04
setting up a separate fund and we
were able to do that. And. It's just

425
00:34:39,05 --> 00:34:45,94
a question of getting that seed money
and getting started having the question

426
00:34:46,39 --> 00:34:52,25
actually two questions if I may first I
just want to ask is is this Jack the time

427
00:34:52,26 --> 00:34:56,19
historian yet this is four years later
nearly when I came in but I just want to say

428
00:34:56,20 --> 00:35:01,34
whole Legion you know not looking forward
to working with you I've read some of

429
00:35:01,35 --> 00:35:02,68
your stuff and count me

430
00:35:02,69 --> 00:35:09,68
a fan for sure. The idea about the betterment
are you speaking about water sewer

431
00:35:09,69 --> 00:35:15,28
bed and road betterments that's sort of
well I just like example on this project.

432
00:35:17,72 --> 00:35:22,45
Done on the old Warren of state we got some
money out of that for the street lights

433
00:35:22,46 --> 00:35:29,23
around the corner. Things like that
so that was negotiated into. The

434
00:35:29,24 --> 00:35:36,18
contract so everybody knows on the
way in this is. Going to set aside

435
00:35:36,55 --> 00:35:42,01
limited legitimately worked out with the
developer it becomes part of the contract

436
00:35:42,79 --> 00:35:47,71
so we have an obligation to do up right he
does his part in and we we get this from

437
00:35:47,72 --> 00:35:53,19
going for the board help. Those.

438
00:35:54,75 --> 00:35:59,36
Sorts of agreements that are worked out
with developers generally speaking or.

439
00:36:00,42 --> 00:36:03,43
There's one of his oldest two ways
to do them you can you do it as

440
00:36:03,44 --> 00:36:09,62
a covenant with planning board. When
they issue the give the zoning permit.

441
00:36:10,86 --> 00:36:17,84
As part of the Covenant should say.
And generally speaking. Those sorts

442
00:36:17,85 --> 00:36:24,46
of gifts are reserved for purposes that
are somehow connected and it might be

443
00:36:24,52 --> 00:36:29,00
expanse of the thing you know historic
record preservation I'm not sure that would

444
00:36:29,16 --> 00:36:34,09
work. The other way to do it as you start
right gifts with civic minded people

445
00:36:34,13 --> 00:36:39,00
offer and sometimes those civic minded
people pick any one of the number of

446
00:36:39,01 --> 00:36:43,61
occasions and sometimes developers can
be very civic minded and do wonderfully

447
00:36:43,62 --> 00:36:44,69
generous things and that's

448
00:36:44,70 --> 00:36:50,80
a possibility but I've got another idea
that I'd like the opportunity to sit with

449
00:36:50,81 --> 00:36:54,71
Jack and Bob and Randy to discuss because
there's another way to do this in some

450
00:36:54,72 --> 00:37:00,05
towns of. Made very good use
of and it's resulted in

451
00:37:00,06 --> 00:37:05,98
a dedicated annual revenue stream. With
numbers easily in the range that you that

452
00:37:05,99 --> 00:37:11,40
you talked about and not just a one time
thing but an annual revenue stream with

453
00:37:11,41 --> 00:37:15,90
a voice commission. I'd like to explore
that with them and we can do that as early

454
00:37:15,91 --> 00:37:21,14
as tomorrow with everybody's Elbel. And if
that ends up we have had projects in the

455
00:37:21,15 --> 00:37:22,32
past where it was

456
00:37:22,33 --> 00:37:28,53
a total private subscription but it was
more reasonable amounts of money that we

457
00:37:28,54 --> 00:37:30,18
were looking at that this just gets

458
00:37:30,19 --> 00:37:36,49
a little heavy on this this is I mean this
is just critical this is the legacy of

459
00:37:36,50 --> 00:37:40,91
the past and you know history for the
future and we've got to we've collectively

460
00:37:40,92 --> 00:37:41,44
all get to do

461
00:37:41,45 --> 00:37:46,10
a better job you got an older clearly we
have an obligation here what level we can

462
00:37:46,11 --> 00:37:49,99
meet or dead said something
else again and also make

463
00:37:50,00 --> 00:37:54,90
a suggestion and I'm doing this with the
chance that the the Board of Trustees of

464
00:37:54,91 --> 00:37:57,37
the library going to shoot
me but we just spent

465
00:37:57,38 --> 00:38:02,09
a lot of money on the library program that's
going to go forward. It's going up for

466
00:38:02,10 --> 00:38:06,74
bid now in the constructions it's going
to start next year. We also have

467
00:38:06,75 --> 00:38:10,51
a town hall that is going out to bid to
start looking at schematics for what do we

468
00:38:10,52 --> 00:38:14,45
do with this building would it make sense
to talk to the people at the library now

469
00:38:14,79 --> 00:38:19,29
to say we've got three vaults you've got
to do something if you can get this some

470
00:38:19,30 --> 00:38:22,92
room in the schematic design efforts of
the library to put it in there where it's

471
00:38:22,93 --> 00:38:26,11
going to be climate controlled is
going to be a sprinkler system

472
00:38:26,81 --> 00:38:30,34
a lot better than what may be here if
you can work out the security it's

473
00:38:30,35 --> 00:38:31,26
a public library in

474
00:38:31,27 --> 00:38:34,79
a public town hall and they want to
bring that that way there's an interim

475
00:38:34,80 --> 00:38:39,48
something when you can move things
over I think you have some statutory

476
00:38:39,49 --> 00:38:44,27
responsibility for certain time and offices
so to maintain those Yeah but I mean

477
00:38:44,28 --> 00:38:48,27
the Vital Records have to stay here in the
physical town hall here because we need

478
00:38:48,28 --> 00:38:49,10
to access someone

479
00:38:49,11 --> 00:38:55,27
a daily basis and. We're honored to serve
responsible for their condition and.

480
00:38:56,63 --> 00:39:03,12
Use some of the other records maybe not
as much but. And they would benefit from

481
00:39:03,13 --> 00:39:08,07
a climate can controlled environment and
that's part of the problem with some of

482
00:39:08,08 --> 00:39:14,34
the documents although you know the vault
downstairs seems to stay pretty dry but

483
00:39:14,75 --> 00:39:20,85
you know some towns say they have some
real problems with young children. By and

484
00:39:21,17 --> 00:39:21,55
it's just

485
00:39:21,56 --> 00:39:25,44
a suggestion if it were the library's
plan for the next twenty years gross of

486
00:39:25,45 --> 00:39:28,10
judges a little room for the next
couple of years perhaps I should make

487
00:39:28,11 --> 00:39:32,13
a disclaimer here because if we ever give
you standards Well researchers like me

488
00:39:32,14 --> 00:39:39,05
one have to leave home. But that is the
wave of the future anyway so I was at

489
00:39:39,06 --> 00:39:45,61
a conference last couple weeks ago and
one of the. Topics was on the national.

490
00:39:47,84 --> 00:39:48,79
Archives and

491
00:39:49,25 --> 00:39:54,03
a lot of what they're doing is already on
disk and you can access it from home on

492
00:39:54,04 --> 00:40:00,67
your computer and you know some of the Vital
Records won't be able to be. Retrieved

493
00:40:00,68 --> 00:40:04,47
that way but you know some of the other
records you know you'll be able look at

494
00:40:04,48 --> 00:40:11,02
them from your own computer. So hopefully
that you know that will be there now and

495
00:40:11,03 --> 00:40:14,00
then maybe the next ten years
or so we'll be able to do that.

496
00:40:18,14 --> 00:40:22,90
But because we could with Flora Kevin
and you can see where we go and.

497
00:40:26,50 --> 00:40:28,11
I just think just like I get

498
00:40:28,12 --> 00:40:33,86
a sense that we we agree somebody should
be talking something here and you can see

499
00:40:33,87 --> 00:40:39,23
me and come back here with
just. Your gift I might on

500
00:40:39,24 --> 00:40:44,83
a somewhat related subject just point out.
Because perhaps you're not aware but.

501
00:40:47,09 --> 00:40:48,83
For a long period of time

502
00:40:48,84 --> 00:40:55,20
a most remarkable woman by the name of
pay bread has been devoting her time to

503
00:40:55,24 --> 00:41:00,99
indexing Fox for news of your newspapers
and everything now today that she has

504
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:05,84
covered one hundred fifty nine years of
news from seventeen ninety six to nineteen

505
00:41:05,85 --> 00:41:08,04
fifty five she just took

506
00:41:08,05 --> 00:41:11,37
a breather and that gave us time to do
something else so one hundred fifty nine

507
00:41:11,38 --> 00:41:18,25
years and knows twenty years of research
one thousand seven hundred pages in

508
00:41:18,26 --> 00:41:24,88
here in Texas six hundred twenty thousand
two hundred thirty seven words. And in

509
00:41:24,89 --> 00:41:28,88
one instance we can with some expert help
we just reduced all of this to one CD.

510
00:41:31,23 --> 00:41:37,65
And we are now so readily available so all
of the places that have. Copies of her

511
00:41:37,66 --> 00:41:39,89
five volumes they also have

512
00:41:39,90 --> 00:41:45,80
a cd rom and trust me that.
Is late years ahead and.

513
00:41:46,82 --> 00:41:50,29
Sometimes now I can even
get some of these answers

514
00:41:50,30 --> 00:41:53,69
a question while they're still in the
form on the net to call them back and say

515
00:41:53,70 --> 00:41:55,20
quick So there's

516
00:41:55,21 --> 00:42:01,37
a major major event advancement
and her or her son Vernon who is

517
00:42:01,38 --> 00:42:04,95
a computer programmer and my son
in law Bob Siteman who is I.T.

518
00:42:04,96 --> 00:42:09,53
Director for the National Association
of government employees they were the

519
00:42:09,54 --> 00:42:15,89
technical help to me just possible and
of course for very interesting his mum's

520
00:42:15,90 --> 00:42:21,84
work become even more right more broadly
available and just one other one other

521
00:42:21,85 --> 00:42:25,12
quick one that. I've had

522
00:42:25,13 --> 00:42:29,00
a longstanding concern for the deteriorating
condition of some of the gravestones

523
00:42:29,01 --> 00:42:36,00
in the ancient cemeteries particularly
veterans graves. And some of these

524
00:42:36,01 --> 00:42:39,76
graves some of these veterans graves are
now nothing more than two three four

525
00:42:39,77 --> 00:42:46,57
pieces of slate the stone is so
deteriorated destroyed whatever. I

526
00:42:46,58 --> 00:42:52,96
had started to work on something that would
eventually let us mark that grave in

527
00:42:52,97 --> 00:42:57,84
some other way so that your door was
we known as a veterans great but in

528
00:42:57,85 --> 00:43:02,07
a conversation with our director
a veteran services we got on

529
00:43:02,08 --> 00:43:05,63
a little bit different track
he contacted the V.A.

530
00:43:05,64 --> 00:43:08,47
That enabled us to get a
much deeper into V.A.

531
00:43:08,48 --> 00:43:14,11
Programs and we're going to be able
to announce on Veterans Day. A V.A.

532
00:43:14,12 --> 00:43:19,92
Program that will step in and start picking
up on the these revolutionary war war

533
00:43:19,93 --> 00:43:26,25
between troll and civil war veterans who
storms are no longer legible. And that's

534
00:43:26,36 --> 00:43:31,81
not at any cost to the time the only
time we're going to run in there is just

535
00:43:31,82 --> 00:43:35,33
a few of these individuals
I think we might be just

536
00:43:35,34 --> 00:43:40,99
a little bit short on documentation. They've
you know they've got this whole series

537
00:43:41,00 --> 00:43:46,99
of things and the information is available
we just might have feet human there too

538
00:43:47,03 --> 00:43:52,03
to get over some records released but for
the most part we have everything we need

539
00:43:52,04 --> 00:43:57,11
but but most of all we're going to be able
to get to John right now what we would

540
00:43:57,12 --> 00:44:03,45
do is prioritize the gravestones that are
in the worst condition and start the get

541
00:44:03,60 --> 00:44:07,91
six or eight of those in the works and
then just have an ongoing program to work

542
00:44:07,92 --> 00:44:13,78
for the V.A. So this was just
such a relief to know that such

543
00:44:13,79 --> 00:44:18,53
a program existed and that we qualified and
that we can in fact we've already had.

544
00:44:19,58 --> 00:44:25,84
Discussions and the impediments. Whatsoever
to what I mean able to do this so.

545
00:44:27,25 --> 00:44:33,90
So two plus one and one. In
process will be back. But

546
00:44:33,91 --> 00:44:40,89
to any any any questions or whatever the
we can help you with but but also did just

547
00:44:40,90 --> 00:44:45,67
the board has always been so supportive of
these things and appreciate it very very

548
00:44:45,68 --> 00:44:50,77
much. For you for to go to morrow with me
Jack I suppose that is Frank writes this

549
00:44:50,78 --> 00:44:55,71
story that if he he business in town or
if a citizen in time would like to make

550
00:44:55,72 --> 00:45:01,09
a donation absolutely you're willing to
accept it for this absolutely I think on

551
00:45:01,10 --> 00:45:06,88
any of these things if you would be nice.
Again at one time we discussed the

552
00:45:06,89 --> 00:45:12,42
possibility of all adoptions of graves but
you you just get overwhelmed sometimes

553
00:45:12,43 --> 00:45:13,49
with numbers so I made

554
00:45:13,50 --> 00:45:16,62
a donation to get just or you know if
someone wanted to give you ten thousand

555
00:45:16,63 --> 00:45:20,58
dollars to get started you would
refuse it. And I would give you

556
00:45:20,59 --> 00:45:21,70
a new definition of

557
00:45:21,71 --> 00:45:27,74
a slip second. So maybe Frank in as he
writes the story can absolutely maybe

558
00:45:27,75 --> 00:45:32,71
business owners or individuals in town
that is so into historical documents that

559
00:45:32,72 --> 00:45:38,59
they might be willing to come forward and
you know just to that Robert's funeral

560
00:45:38,60 --> 00:45:43,78
home would have that kind of information
available and if a family had

561
00:45:44,02 --> 00:45:47,62
a strong historical ties to the community
and one of their loved ones passed away

562
00:45:48,40 --> 00:45:48,59
be

563
00:45:48,60 --> 00:45:54,28
a pretty pretty neat way to remember them
right there so I'll get my grandkids all

564
00:45:54,29 --> 00:45:59,82
lined up. Yeah thank you thank you yes
because if there are more you do the more

565
00:45:59,83 --> 00:46:00,75
people asked but there's

566
00:46:00,76 --> 00:46:04,59
a item on the agenda Mrs galleys coming
in to talk about the Charles James Fox

567
00:46:04,60 --> 00:46:06,97
memorial which could you just stick around

568
00:46:06,98 --> 00:46:13,77
a case that may be of interest or use
your expertise on this thank you. Yes

569
00:46:14,15 --> 00:46:18,52
Why did you. Already thank
you and we thank you

570
00:46:21,90 --> 00:46:28,44
yeah and next. And look like
someone else is going to come up.

571
00:46:30,51 --> 00:46:37,48
Here you know you welcome my
manager thanks for your moment

572
00:46:37,49 --> 00:46:44,37
here behind the scenes too so
it's very good to see you. As

573
00:46:44,38 --> 00:46:50,41
you know I it's made it up
a package. And you've had

574
00:46:50,42 --> 00:46:57,42
a chance to look that over the long weekend
I don't know. Hopefully. And trying to

575
00:46:57,43 --> 00:46:57,80
give you

576
00:46:57,84 --> 00:47:04,31
a little background in history of what has
transpired and if you have any questions

577
00:47:04,32 --> 00:47:11,03
about that. You know I'd like to hear them
and for well since two thousand and four

578
00:47:11,04 --> 00:47:17,41
now the monument has been at the
library the it's seven years

579
00:47:17,84 --> 00:47:23,11
and we knew at the time that. That we
were going to have to move it and we were

580
00:47:23,12 --> 00:47:28,60
hoping that the library edition would
be approved and when it was I started

581
00:47:28,61 --> 00:47:34,55
thinking that I have to make you know
I've had it end up doing this because the

582
00:47:34,56 --> 00:47:40,53
committee worked very hard and it was
difficult at the end very difficult but. I

583
00:47:40,54 --> 00:47:40,95
think it's

584
00:47:41,40 --> 00:47:47,70
a worthy project and we do have the
results of it now. I even have

585
00:47:47,71 --> 00:47:48,56
a picture of

586
00:47:48,57 --> 00:47:52,97
a young man I want to take some pictures
of it it's in the in the back of the

587
00:47:52,98 --> 00:47:57,34
library and I just took up he really got
out of his car instead of playing with his

588
00:47:57,35 --> 00:47:59,29
mother the library he ran
over there and I took

589
00:47:59,30 --> 00:48:01,23
a picture of him so you
could see the size of

590
00:48:01,24 --> 00:48:06,19
a person I got it I'm only my camera here
because I'm not very technical and didn't

591
00:48:06,20 --> 00:48:11,29
get printed but I don't even want to see
that. It's not that large of the little

592
00:48:11,30 --> 00:48:17,90
boy sitting on the corner here and you know
his feet could touch the ground. So as

593
00:48:17,91 --> 00:48:21,24
I say seven years over there and this is
the worst time in the world for me to come

594
00:48:21,25 --> 00:48:24,38
to you because I've always dreamed that
perhaps maybe the town hall might be

595
00:48:24,39 --> 00:48:26,47
a place and I've known for

596
00:48:26,48 --> 00:48:32,57
a long time this should have been dealt
with I think so years ago and it wasn't and

597
00:48:32,58 --> 00:48:36,86
I just you know was waiting and waiting
and waiting and so what Unfortunately I

598
00:48:36,87 --> 00:48:43,74
have the most fun. Popular time to come to
you about trying to make some decisions

599
00:48:43,75 --> 00:48:49,62
about the monument bench. As
I said I hope that might be

600
00:48:49,63 --> 00:48:52,40
a possibility of it being
you know some place

601
00:48:52,41 --> 00:48:57,81
a town hall where people came here and that
they might see it and it certainly gets

602
00:48:57,82 --> 00:49:04,44
visibility here anywhere in the RAM town
hall you know. And I know that you can't

603
00:49:04,45 --> 00:49:04,79
really make

604
00:49:04,80 --> 00:49:11,19
a decision so before anything else I've
asked you that you know take that that on

605
00:49:11,20 --> 00:49:16,25
but before you even do that if you'd like
to put that off I'm going to ask if there

606
00:49:16,32 --> 00:49:19,46
might be a possibility of looking for

607
00:49:19,50 --> 00:49:26,40
a temporary place for it and I was
going to suggest the lawn front lawn

608
00:49:26,41 --> 00:49:29,58
where you had a big tree taken
down this year I think that was

609
00:49:29,59 --> 00:49:35,90
a diseased tree out front. Town hall or the
common town hall town hall down all the

610
00:49:35,91 --> 00:49:37,12
common is not

611
00:49:37,13 --> 00:49:42,15
a possibility at this time of the storable
commission and jack off what I've

612
00:49:42,16 --> 00:49:48,45
already decided that and so looking for
another place that has excellent visibility

613
00:49:48,45 --> 00:49:53,82
. That people could enjoy it and
there's lots to read on there and.

614
00:49:55,38 --> 00:50:02,09
I have. Actually if you wanted to
take with you. I have one for each

615
00:50:02,46 --> 00:50:06,01
member of what's on each side if you want
to look at it again just to make sure

616
00:50:06,02 --> 00:50:11,46
it's something you're happy with and and
that you think is appropriate and like to

617
00:50:11,47 --> 00:50:17,72
give that to you anyway so I'm going to
leave. You. Five copies here are six copies

618
00:50:17,73 --> 00:50:24,34
I think I have one two three four five.
Copies of this and I could get one more for

619
00:50:24,35 --> 00:50:30,29
the town manager if you want. So you'd
have that but so today tonight I'm just

620
00:50:30,30 --> 00:50:31,07
asking if there's

621
00:50:31,08 --> 00:50:37,79
a possibility. Perhaps allowing
the monument plate to be

622
00:50:37,80 --> 00:50:42,74
placed somewhere on the grounds here that
might not be interfering bought the point

623
00:50:42,75 --> 00:50:49,47
is we have funds and there are funds adequate
funds to move it to move it again and

624
00:50:49,48 --> 00:50:54,76
to do pay for landscaping or any kind of
things that would be done around it for it

625
00:50:55,28 --> 00:50:59,74
in the Senate any of it. That is already
at Foxborough Federal Savings in

626
00:50:59,75 --> 00:51:06,62
a fund. Of this name which has been
there waiting for this to happen.

627
00:51:08,67 --> 00:51:13,98
That it needs footings but nothing else and
I'm going to offer it to the library to

628
00:51:13,99 --> 00:51:19,01
remove the footings that are there so
they don't have any extra work as well so

629
00:51:19,02 --> 00:51:22,22
that's all that needs it needs
concrete footing so it's it's

630
00:51:22,24 --> 00:51:28,54
a you know heavy right doesn't take
up well it's five foot six. Six.

631
00:51:30,19 --> 00:51:35,60
So it doesn't you know take it
much more than my my arm's reach.

632
00:51:37,22 --> 00:51:37,98
Anyway it was

633
00:51:37,99 --> 00:51:44,60
a thought. But just personally I think once
I've seen this and where it's been and

634
00:51:44,61 --> 00:51:51,16
how it is it enjoyed that it would be ideal
to have someplace that had this ability

635
00:51:51,17 --> 00:51:57,19
that people actually went to it and maybe
even used it as they seem to have done at

636
00:51:57,20 --> 00:52:01,72
the bulletin library and it doesn't seem
like there's any more room up there at all

637
00:52:01,77 --> 00:52:03,97
right now we are asking
people of a joke and I share

638
00:52:03,98 --> 00:52:06,97
a few things yes I disagree I think it is

639
00:52:06,98 --> 00:52:09,28
a good time to talk to
us I don't see why it's

640
00:52:09,29 --> 00:52:16,08
a bad. I think you know for Memorial.
Day. I would support that I

641
00:52:16,09 --> 00:52:18,27
mean you know it's kind
of you know might be

642
00:52:18,28 --> 00:52:22,78
a bit rash to say that right now but I
mean in theory I don't see why it wouldn't

643
00:52:23,08 --> 00:52:29,19
be a great addition to Town Hall I
do think though that. It's probably

644
00:52:29,20 --> 00:52:34,57
a decision for the town manager since
doesn't manage to control the property and

645
00:52:34,69 --> 00:52:38,92
you know the manager might go with you know
what are you know what the board thinks

646
00:52:38,93 --> 00:52:39,06
is

647
00:52:39,07 --> 00:52:43,24
a good idea but you know so anyway just wanted
thought that I think it's kind of manager

648
00:52:43,25 --> 00:52:48,10
decision. I think we have one
so you know right but I it's

649
00:52:48,11 --> 00:52:50,93
a beautiful memorial and you know
I don't know if it really gets

650
00:52:50,94 --> 00:52:52,99
a whole bunch I know not you know we have

651
00:52:53,00 --> 00:52:57,17
a pretty you know smart town they like to
read but not everyone gets to the library

652
00:52:57,18 --> 00:53:02,31
so you know might get some good visibility
here in town hall so just my own view I

653
00:53:02,32 --> 00:53:04,47
would recommend to Kevin that it's

654
00:53:04,48 --> 00:53:09,70
a great idea Joan and I had talked about
just the whole timing that we're just

655
00:53:09,71 --> 00:53:16,01
starting the process of you know looking
at Intel home renovation and the fact that

656
00:53:16,17 --> 00:53:21,49
she has flexibility of relocating it
again if there is the need around any

657
00:53:21,50 --> 00:53:26,75
potential future construction just makes
the whole thing. That could be done

658
00:53:26,75 --> 00:53:31,59
quickly to yeah. I think it that location
makes sense I mean like that in two weeks

659
00:53:31,60 --> 00:53:34,10
if I. Well you know

660
00:53:34,70 --> 00:53:38,82
a contract with someone may well we have I
mean to move it again could be done I'm

661
00:53:38,83 --> 00:53:43,91
saying that any time right we don't have
to write I mean obviously we would want

662
00:53:44,10 --> 00:53:44,38
digs

663
00:53:44,39 --> 00:53:50,61
a few to come out and look at the property
and make sure that it's safe to do so.

664
00:53:51,75 --> 00:53:57,57
John you know I was with the Jaycees with
which there has been van and. I started

665
00:53:57,58 --> 00:53:58,74
you know on the committee

666
00:53:58,75 --> 00:54:05,70
a little bit and did what I could Way
back when and that was now years ago. You

667
00:54:05,71 --> 00:54:12,53
know. But I mean I personally I always
thought that it blinds either at the

668
00:54:12,54 --> 00:54:19,35
library I hear myself
so. I mean I'd be to be

669
00:54:19,35 --> 00:54:25,48
relocated here absolutely I don't see why
not that would be Kevin's decision but.

670
00:54:26,71 --> 00:54:32,54
I think you're right right yeah yeah you
know opportunity this weekend when I

671
00:54:32,55 --> 00:54:39,49
looked at the agenda to Google
troll James Fox and while.

672
00:54:40,91 --> 00:54:42,36
I mean an opponent of slavery at

673
00:54:42,37 --> 00:54:45,14
a time when I was not in the
mainstream of public opinion

674
00:54:45,15 --> 00:54:52,07
a champion of. The freedom of the person
public just yet you know the person after

675
00:54:52,08 --> 00:54:58,22
whom this community was named. Was someone
told me that I'm missing something I

676
00:54:58,23 --> 00:54:58,86
can't think of

677
00:54:58,87 --> 00:55:06,29
a more appropriate place to all of
the present and it's wonderful. I

678
00:55:06,30 --> 00:55:11,67
agree I actually agree Jim No the monument
itself obviously is not historic the

679
00:55:11,68 --> 00:55:16,39
information on it is because no issues
with moving it any issues with putting in

680
00:55:16,40 --> 00:55:20,69
their town hall you're just playing devil's
advocate I don't see the downside I

681
00:55:20,70 --> 00:55:24,50
would want it to be handicapped accessible
to make sure everyone can get there so

682
00:55:24,51 --> 00:55:26,64
wherever the placement is that's

683
00:55:26,65 --> 00:55:30,31
a problem whatever you want to if you
want to do anything formally Right now I

684
00:55:30,32 --> 00:55:34,62
would think maybe you might want to wait
on that because you know if it's concrete

685
00:55:34,63 --> 00:55:35,56
or something that would be

686
00:55:35,57 --> 00:55:40,09
a big expense to dig it all up again I mean
at the moment I mean think of venturing

687
00:55:40,63 --> 00:55:45,36
you know your pocket tacked you might
suggest at the very end I mean don't let it

688
00:55:45,37 --> 00:55:45,89
interfere with

689
00:55:45,90 --> 00:55:51,98
a new lease. But there might be something
appropriate somewhere in your plans

690
00:55:53,73 --> 00:55:55,65
so it is just as well to know that that's

691
00:55:55,66 --> 00:56:01,42
a possibility now it doesn't have to be
right but so one doesn't need to be moved

692
00:56:01,43 --> 00:56:05,66
from its current location
an absolute positive.

693
00:56:08,42 --> 00:56:15,02
Would have to be moved by the
end of the snow next spring

694
00:56:15,61 --> 00:56:19,80
but I'd have to put footings in ahead of
time because you're right it wouldn't be

695
00:56:19,81 --> 00:56:23,33
the appropriate time to do the footings in
the spring I mean you could wait to move

696
00:56:23,34 --> 00:56:27,94
it so I would say the end of this year while
we still can put footings in if we're

697
00:56:27,95 --> 00:56:32,42
going to do the footings if it's possible
move it then if it was something that

698
00:56:32,43 --> 00:56:35,16
came up with some reason not to as

699
00:56:35,17 --> 00:56:39,48
a possibility waiting as long as we had the
footings already Yeah Jack is that can

700
00:56:39,49 --> 00:56:44,97
you explain why you didn't think it would
work in the common we have. Lots of

701
00:56:44,98 --> 00:56:46,16
traffic there at the condom

702
00:56:46,41 --> 00:56:52,31
a common lots of people lots of visitors.
Just to share your thoughts well if I

703
00:56:52,62 --> 00:56:58,30
could prove clarify one thing. Jerk off
and let in the Historical Commission did

704
00:56:58,31 --> 00:57:04,98
not make any decision relative. Just
one calm OK we were in your eyes read

705
00:57:04,99 --> 00:57:09,66
a passage through force of. The board have

706
00:57:09,67 --> 00:57:16,49
a signed policy with any
questions any hope of living on

707
00:57:17,33 --> 00:57:24,08
your own life and your representatives
simply ask all the questions

708
00:57:24,08 --> 00:57:31,03
and. Interests of his all the pros and
cons and get back to you with our twenty

709
00:57:31,36 --> 00:57:38,25
children you know the members of the Board
of Selectmen. And one of the things that

710
00:57:38,31 --> 00:57:44,03
came out of all of the discussion
focused on was that there is

711
00:57:44,04 --> 00:57:48,26
a finite limit to available
when you no longer.

712
00:57:50,80 --> 00:57:57,58
Have the memorials to those who
have served our country and one. In

713
00:57:57,60 --> 00:58:04,49
we have on the plate right
now an obligation to. Morals

714
00:58:06,06 --> 00:58:12,16
for those who have been in the rack and
Afghanistan given roles where else. We have

715
00:58:12,36 --> 00:58:19,17
to do justice for those who are present
and will be serving our country and

716
00:58:20,03 --> 00:58:20,46
I think

717
00:58:20,47 --> 00:58:26,57
a responsibility to do with any similar
manner as to how we. Represent the others

718
00:58:26,58 --> 00:58:29,33
and that because really there was

719
00:58:29,34 --> 00:58:35,17
a lot of discussion back and forth but
what it came down to was this process made

720
00:58:35,18 --> 00:58:39,100
us more aware than ever that
there was a finite number to be

721
00:58:40,01 --> 00:58:46,29
a little morally. And
that's why we felt that

722
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:51,17
we were compelled to recommend
that it not be on the card.

723
00:58:54,05 --> 00:58:59,52
Again look at it. Not once again not.

724
00:59:01,78 --> 00:59:08,57
Having history. Ali and I need
him and the kids can come up on

725
00:59:08,58 --> 00:59:14,39
a field trip and learn about
it. So should we make

726
00:59:14,40 --> 00:59:21,21
a motion that would work with
them to. Initiate the move to get

727
00:59:21,22 --> 00:59:27,50
money and that if you can get

728
00:59:27,51 --> 00:59:34,12
a motion of yeah I'll second Marine Division
that will mean. For John what with.

729
00:59:39,78 --> 00:59:45,26
The second part yes is there
any other discussion just just

730
00:59:45,27 --> 00:59:49,94
a quick point at the Walpole library that
it's under construction I had almost an

731
00:59:49,95 --> 00:59:54,05
identical situation they had an old historic
cannon right in the middle of where

732
00:59:54,06 --> 00:59:57,81
the library was going to go so what they
did on the construction plans was just put

733
00:59:57,82 --> 01:00:02,24
a circle on it and said to be moved to

734
01:00:02,25 --> 01:00:07,29
a certain place if they expend if the money
in the budget to set the base and get

735
01:00:07,30 --> 01:00:12,47
it already if the library plans could say
move it because they're already mobilized

736
01:00:12,48 --> 01:00:12,77
it's not

737
01:00:12,78 --> 01:00:17,11
a big cost to move it it would be cheaper
to have that contract to do it than take

738
01:00:17,12 --> 01:00:20,89
the funds because I think that it doesn't
have to be moved in till the library's

739
01:00:20,90 --> 01:00:24,71
ready to go correct so that will be the
first step move it over on the basis that

740
01:00:25,26 --> 01:00:29,70
you guys are going to go I can inquire and
see but it could be most cost effective

741
01:00:29,71 --> 01:00:35,44
because the funds that I have can be used
somewhere in this town you know no matter

742
01:00:35,45 --> 01:00:40,70
what and eventually when we know that
everything's permanent that will be done I'll

743
01:00:40,71 --> 01:00:46,73
be turned over to use for whatever purposes
it seemed the most appropriate that's

744
01:00:46,74 --> 01:00:52,90
going at the time great thing so I don't
favor I'm right. Thanks John thank you

745
01:00:52,91 --> 01:00:58,90
thank you for the job you want to do
something that. As kind of an agreement that

746
01:00:58,91 --> 01:01:04,52
it's temporary for now I think you guys
can walk out of that's when you can see I

747
01:01:04,53 --> 01:01:11,49
mean I'll get you through Kevin and
get together and. Feel so. Thank you

748
01:01:11,50 --> 01:01:14,87
for doing the research itself
if you want me to last

749
01:01:14,88 --> 01:01:21,72
a lot to learn. You know. Thank
you very much I feel that you're.

750
01:01:25,42 --> 01:01:30,02
OK And next does she. Not feel
for the emergency planning.

751
01:01:32,10 --> 01:01:38,18
Evening for all of you.
I guess first of all.

752
01:01:40,67 --> 01:01:46,60
I haven't had any of these with the Newtown
major yet so I know that when you think

753
01:01:46,61 --> 01:01:51,20
about planning an emergency plan you think
of one plan well I have to tell you all

754
01:01:51,21 --> 01:01:55,46
that we have many different plans in the
whole town of Foxborough and this is just

755
01:01:55,47 --> 01:01:58,85
one small piece of those plans
we have you know we have

756
01:01:58,86 --> 01:02:04,60
a comprehensive plan that is this big that
talks about what we do for shelters and

757
01:02:04,61 --> 01:02:07,16
how do we deal with natural
and manmade disasters if

758
01:02:07,17 --> 01:02:12,74
a town has to deal with we have other plans
to deal with the health department and

759
01:02:12,75 --> 01:02:13,02
doing

760
01:02:13,03 --> 01:02:18,53
a dispensing site this is just another one
of those plans that has been in the in

761
01:02:18,54 --> 01:02:22,71
the long workings for
many years and there's

762
01:02:22,72 --> 01:02:26,20
a few people that need to be commended
because this started in two thousand and

763
01:02:26,21 --> 01:02:29,95
four and two thousand all the way up to
two thousand and seven and we're just now

764
01:02:29,96 --> 01:02:34,56
getting to finalize completion
that has been approved by me being

765
01:02:34,57 --> 01:02:38,83
a Massachusetts mergence the Management
Agency and other faith federal agencies to

766
01:02:38,84 --> 01:02:43,36
look at hazard mitigation instead if
I ever structure here in the town of

767
01:02:43,37 --> 01:02:49,02
Foxborough that way be faced with natural
or manmade type of situations or

768
01:02:49,03 --> 01:02:55,93
disasters. The thing that I have to tell
you though is that when the metropolitan

769
01:02:55,97 --> 01:03:01,59
area Planning Council got the contract
in the grant to provide us this document

770
01:03:02,32 --> 01:03:06,39
they were working with folks that are
retired like retired fire chief Gerry

771
01:03:06,40 --> 01:03:11,55
McNamara but there's also still some
folks around like Bill Chris Barrow Mark

772
01:03:11,56 --> 01:03:17,58
Resnick Bob Swanson. Andrew Gallo
that's now retired that put

773
01:03:17,59 --> 01:03:21,57
a lot of work and effort working with the
council to drive this document I think

774
01:03:21,58 --> 01:03:24,42
they need to be commended on this
because what this has admitted

775
01:03:24,43 --> 01:03:28,86
a geisha unplanned does for the town of
far for the benefit areas that need to be

776
01:03:28,87 --> 01:03:35,29
improved looking at. Different catch basins
in dams and in different things that

777
01:03:35,40 --> 01:03:41,08
they could be impacted by floods or from
heavy snows like roof capacities and

778
01:03:41,09 --> 01:03:46,32
things but it allows the town to go go
after now state federal grants and that's

779
01:03:46,33 --> 01:03:51,92
huge especially when looking at emergency
management we want to capitalize on any

780
01:03:51,93 --> 01:03:56,43
of these these fines that we can get that
will as assisting the town and preparing

781
01:03:56,44 --> 01:04:01,90
for whatever we might be faced with. One
of the things I did find as talking to the

782
01:04:01,91 --> 01:04:04,01
folks that wrote this is that this is

783
01:04:04,02 --> 01:04:07,24
a long time coming and I
apologize for that but it took

784
01:04:07,25 --> 01:04:11,16
a long time to get it approved because it
was many communities that were involved

785
01:04:11,32 --> 01:04:12,11
it wasn't just

786
01:04:12,12 --> 01:04:18,83
a town of Foxborough. Their goal and hope
is that that the the selectmen new folks

787
01:04:18,91 --> 01:04:24,96
will prove this so that it can then now
allow us in the in the rest of these all

788
01:04:24,97 --> 01:04:29,22
these other communities once are all approved
to start going after these grants to

789
01:04:29,63 --> 01:04:33,77
to actually start focusing our efforts
on some of the things that they saw

790
01:04:33,78 --> 01:04:38,62
a week for the town. I've already looked
at their list some of them already been

791
01:04:38,63 --> 01:04:43,87
down by the town and by by the highway
department in the public works but there's

792
01:04:43,88 --> 01:04:48,80
also the opportunity now and once you folks
have approved this that we can upgrade

793
01:04:48,81 --> 01:04:50,42
that list and work as

794
01:04:50,43 --> 01:04:56,96
a community define other areas that might
be in need of repair and go after federal

795
01:04:56,97 --> 01:05:01,10
and state grants to fix those type of
things so on that's a little bit of

796
01:05:01,11 --> 01:05:02,34
a synopsis there's

797
01:05:02,35 --> 01:05:06,88
a lot of written documents documentation
here I know that you guys very looked at

798
01:05:06,89 --> 01:05:12,00
it I apologize for its lengthy ability but
if you focus your efforts on page forty

799
01:05:12,01 --> 01:05:17,92
five forty six and forty seven that's really
the meat of this whole document of the

800
01:05:17,93 --> 01:05:24,34
Dead looks at Foxborough and. We have many
plans that they haven't and I have to

801
01:05:24,35 --> 01:05:27,30
share and look at him and I actually have

802
01:05:27,31 --> 01:05:31,04
a meeting tomorrow with me medical or
some of them because I think some of them

803
01:05:31,05 --> 01:05:37,94
need to be condensed. Updated is already
happening one of the things that I find is

804
01:05:37,95 --> 01:05:40,46
that when you look at all hazard
planning you've got to have

805
01:05:40,47 --> 01:05:45,24
a workable workable plan
something that a police chief

806
01:05:45,25 --> 01:05:50,80
a Fire Chief of Public Works Director town
manager can really physically grab and

807
01:05:50,81 --> 01:05:57,46
work from my plan and national was only
this thick when I got here the document is

808
01:05:57,47 --> 01:06:01,99
bigger than this binder and
it when I looked at it it's

809
01:06:02,00 --> 01:06:04,78
a lot of federal guidelines and it's

810
01:06:04,79 --> 01:06:08,84
a template that's been followed by the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts and I just

811
01:06:08,85 --> 01:06:12,19
need to work with me Emma to
condense that so that I can have

812
01:06:12,20 --> 01:06:18,40
a workable plan for all of us here in town
and you know for the last year year and

813
01:06:18,41 --> 01:06:19,53
a half we've been focusing

814
01:06:19,54 --> 01:06:24,96
a lot of our efforts with the health
department Polly Clifford on the dispensing

815
01:06:24,97 --> 01:06:29,17
site in how we would deal with any type
of health issues and and that's come

816
01:06:29,18 --> 01:06:33,15
a long way and it's really looking
good well but this is just

817
01:06:33,16 --> 01:06:37,68
a different one I kind of hoped for your
approval. Knowing that we have some

818
01:06:37,69 --> 01:06:42,52
upgrades that we need to do with it but it
really now opens up our opportunities to

819
01:06:42,53 --> 01:06:48,65
go out to some assistance from the state
in the federal government with grants. I

820
01:06:48,66 --> 01:06:54,97
questions for Roger I mean
that was easy for them.

821
01:06:56,16 --> 01:07:02,65
You know motion. I move that the slug going
to drop the hazard mitigation plan in

822
01:07:02,66 --> 01:07:09,22
accordance with Mass General arch up to
forty second and you know the discussion is

823
01:07:09,28 --> 01:07:10,42
just a quick discussion just

824
01:07:10,43 --> 01:07:12,73
a follow up and I share this
with the Earlier this there is

825
01:07:12,74 --> 01:07:15,91
a lot of stuff that's outdated because it
has been started and right you know what

826
01:07:16,36 --> 01:07:23,27
if you could put this on your To Do list
to let's the if we prove it tonight. Start

827
01:07:23,27 --> 01:07:26,80
to revise it immediately you know that in
the next six months just so it doesn't

828
01:07:26,81 --> 01:07:32,60
get forgotten. Chatting with
me if you just want to do

829
01:07:33,89 --> 01:07:35,74
a college drop of wars attention this is

830
01:07:35,75 --> 01:07:39,34
a significant body of work
I believe the only P.C.

831
01:07:39,43 --> 01:07:44,11
Would watch for you from the
chief producers it's a heck of

832
01:07:44,12 --> 01:07:49,14
a body of work because well we smart
business to mitigate hazards before you

833
01:07:49,15 --> 01:07:54,85
actually have the damage at the moment
occasion causes I would suggest the board

834
01:07:54,86 --> 01:08:01,11
the does two steps we need to take on this
first is. To I just got the idea that I

835
01:08:01,38 --> 01:08:07,42
need to get closer to this first is
sorry first is. To make sure that.

836
01:08:08,82 --> 01:08:15,67
The stuff that's in the recommendations
section. Does get put into the C I P so

837
01:08:15,68 --> 01:08:21,70
that we can actually fund making these
changes. Those that will go after grants for

838
01:08:21,71 --> 01:08:25,50
that we do and the last part is
that we put together some sort of

839
01:08:25,51 --> 01:08:30,65
a memo an action plan to actually try to
accomplish this. So we're going to give

840
01:08:30,66 --> 01:08:33,51
that a copy that to the board had
to be a collaborative effort with

841
01:08:33,52 --> 01:08:39,17
a number departments so we were
going on that. And again our.

842
01:08:40,31 --> 01:08:44,86
You're absolutely correct I noticed that
right away and I did make the calls to the

843
01:08:44,87 --> 01:08:49,97
state on that and you know very clearly
from their words is that they were hoping

844
01:08:49,98 --> 01:08:54,62
that we would approve it knowing that
we have to upgrade it already and they

845
01:08:54,63 --> 01:09:00,58
strongly recommended that we actually approve
it up front and start to say OK this

846
01:09:00,59 --> 01:09:04,84
one's already been completed and these
are ones that are not mentioned in I

847
01:09:04,85 --> 01:09:10,64
absolutely think that proactive planning
is good that the best solution to this

848
01:09:10,68 --> 01:09:15,07
mitigation plan and unlike the other plans
that we still are looking at upgrading.

849
01:09:16,64 --> 01:09:19,40
The biggest thing is that we all have to
roll up our sleeves and do it together

850
01:09:19,41 --> 01:09:19,95
it's not

851
01:09:19,96 --> 01:09:26,73
a one person show thank
you. And I. Do believe

852
01:09:27,45 --> 01:09:32,11
that you can make. The next. I.

853
01:09:37,91 --> 01:09:44,43
Don't. Want me to read. Like

854
01:09:44,44 --> 01:09:51,15
a very good place. Where you really feel
we do it because you know well thanks.

855
01:09:53,12 --> 01:09:59,18
So so. Well. Once upon a time there was

856
01:09:59,19 --> 01:10:02,54
a. Dream place thing that was
going to be built in was

857
01:10:02,55 --> 01:10:07,53
a lot of mitigation money and certain things
were decided not to do and things got

858
01:10:07,54 --> 01:10:11,72
changed and placed into the people at another
and you know ways to accomplish them

859
01:10:11,73 --> 01:10:18,47
along the North St Carter and
there was some money left over

860
01:10:18,94 --> 01:10:25,86
for mitigation some of those monies
went to specific town needs relative

861
01:10:25,87 --> 01:10:30,37
to public safety some radio needs and some
other things with communication between

862
01:10:30,38 --> 01:10:36,55
the stadium police and fire and some
some items like that there was still

863
01:10:36,77 --> 01:10:40,97
a little over one hundred thousand
dollars left and because we had already

864
01:10:40,98 --> 01:10:45,24
addressed. The pacer North
Street issue through the P.

865
01:10:45,25 --> 01:10:51,14
Wed we look at other areas that were
directly impacted off of North Street.

866
01:10:52,18 --> 01:10:55,51
Because of the building a
Patriot Place one of those

867
01:10:56,09 --> 01:11:00,15
a large one was cross
street so we recently had

868
01:11:00,16 --> 01:11:06,96
a long sidewalk with Bob Swanson the
Conservation Commission Bob bodie and the

869
01:11:06,97 --> 01:11:13,69
agent and Gordon me
and. Mr Krantz from the

870
01:11:13,70 --> 01:11:20,21
stadium and what he who works with them
as well and so the board had already

871
01:11:20,22 --> 01:11:27,22
voted to allocate that last section
of money to some. Grinding

872
01:11:27,23 --> 01:11:34,04
and repaving and fixing of the
cross street area and Bob Swanson

873
01:11:34,05 --> 01:11:37,55
agreed to it as well conservation was
there just to make sure that any of the

874
01:11:37,56 --> 01:11:43,06
drainage matters there's culverts that
cross over there that there are still in

875
01:11:43,07 --> 01:11:48,76
compliance and they will be damaged or
create any other issues so we're really here

876
01:11:48,77 --> 01:11:53,79
tonight to ask you guys for permission
to do the Street opening so that we can

877
01:11:53,80 --> 01:12:00,51
accomplish that one of the. Things. With.
Before that before we reached this

878
01:12:00,52 --> 01:12:04,96
final amount of money we'd get one of the
thing which was talked with both chiefs.

879
01:12:06,13 --> 01:12:10,88
Besides the radio and dado like Kevin
mentioned it was traffic lights that they

880
01:12:10,89 --> 01:12:17,33
wanted to add up to cars to. Public safety

881
01:12:17,34 --> 01:12:23,35
a girls could keep their lights and the
biggest one was the Dairy Queen area of the

882
01:12:23,36 --> 01:12:28,88
Stop and Shop and the North Street so
that those all work in unison. So.

883
01:12:30,08 --> 01:12:35,10
With the purchase from the chief they
picked those the two most important sectors

884
01:12:35,11 --> 01:12:40,86
for them that one chestnut and it can
be construed that was going to be more

885
01:12:40,87 --> 01:12:45,34
expensive because it's an older version
of light and whatever so the balance of

886
01:12:45,35 --> 01:12:51,55
that is Kevin's talked about you know. We
wanted to make sure that everybody was

887
01:12:51,56 --> 01:12:57,23
comfortable with the process and will we
know the vibes out I talked with the club

888
01:12:57,24 --> 01:13:03,23
today his first day back and he. Asked if
if you could not be here today just his

889
01:13:03,51 --> 01:13:10,02
first day back. In the conversation
with him was we're waiting

890
01:13:10,03 --> 01:13:10,54
for

891
01:13:10,55 --> 01:13:15,97
a memorandum of understanding or scope of
work if you will from the stadium outlining

892
01:13:15,98 --> 01:13:21,98
what it is that they feel. You know
their obligation and are willing to do.

893
01:13:23,03 --> 01:13:28,97
Which Bob is already talking we just want
it on paper. And then get everybody to

894
01:13:29,46 --> 01:13:33,37
sign off on that but we would like to
vote tonight so we don't have to wait an

895
01:13:33,38 --> 01:13:38,41
additional two weeks your next meeting
because we expect this to get squared away

896
01:13:38,42 --> 01:13:43,57
the next day or so that we don't want to
lose this construction for just question

897
01:13:43,58 --> 01:13:50,30
getting the procedure do we
have to we have to vote to open

898
01:13:51,08 --> 01:13:56,11
the road but that would be have to do
Republican for that correct or NO NO NO.

899
01:13:58,81 --> 01:14:02,96
Kirk OK The statute doesn't
require it unless you have

900
01:14:02,97 --> 01:14:08,11
a local bylaw that does not it's not
you know I think so this is have

901
01:14:08,12 --> 01:14:12,85
a cross street reconstruction so this is
reconstructing all of cross street it's

902
01:14:12,86 --> 01:14:17,57
not all it's from my home where they've
stopped Bob has done and fortunately right

903
01:14:17,61 --> 01:14:22,56
budget you know he's out of funds and he
has enough left to do the cull that work

904
01:14:22,57 --> 01:14:26,27
that hasn't begun So the agreement worked
at the stadium if you want to get into

905
01:14:26,28 --> 01:14:32,92
the college work and engineering you
know so. The plan is for Bob to do

906
01:14:32,93 --> 01:14:39,23
a call that work. The stadium to do
grinding and whatever behaving read

907
01:14:39,89 --> 01:14:46,58
the current work to reclaim the road
hoping to go. All the way down to find.

908
01:14:48,16 --> 01:14:52,05
Some point of that he's going to make sure
that if you want to hire he's going to

909
01:14:52,15 --> 01:14:57,63
help there is one section that had been
done previously by another private as part

910
01:14:57,64 --> 01:14:57,75
of

911
01:14:57,76 --> 01:15:03,10
a development medication yet that does not
need to be done so I think just by twenty

912
01:15:03,11 --> 01:15:09,72
two I could let you feet that are involved.
Now if you remember back during the

913
01:15:10,35 --> 01:15:14,79
all those traffic meetings that we had
the financing in Brussels the traffic

914
01:15:14,80 --> 01:15:18,51
engineer and they looked at Peachtree
and they said are the big trees inside

915
01:15:18,52 --> 01:15:21,64
a beech tree we don't want to make it wider
because it makes it go faster so they

916
01:15:21,65 --> 01:15:25,51
left that they want to run all the
different streets and into sections and I

917
01:15:25,52 --> 01:15:28,71
remember them specifically saying across
street we don't want to do anything

918
01:15:28,72 --> 01:15:30,65
because if we repave it it's

919
01:15:30,66 --> 01:15:33,37
a cut through and it goes faster and I
remember all the people out in cross street

920
01:15:33,38 --> 01:15:37,08
saying yeah that makes sense we don't want
to touch cross street with all this new

921
01:15:37,09 --> 01:15:42,90
paving and in the potential of people going
to use it it's going to go fast you can

922
01:15:42,91 --> 01:15:47,35
see the change already on the stuff
when they do we asked Bob. As

923
01:15:47,36 --> 01:15:54,28
a highway superintendent what what areas
of road he needed to do work in his in his

924
01:15:54,29 --> 01:15:55,76
mind as as

925
01:15:55,77 --> 01:16:01,98
a highway superintendent. So we didn't
select the road he selected and went Yeah I

926
01:16:01,99 --> 01:16:03,68
think that he'd already started

927
01:16:04,01 --> 01:16:09,49
a large section it is I think that
he's identified for some time meeting.

928
01:16:10,94 --> 01:16:14,77
Improve and we're not we're not whining it
or anything like that all we're doing is

929
01:16:14,78 --> 01:16:16,79
reclaiming and if you went up and took

930
01:16:16,80 --> 01:16:21,90
a walk on it you'd see the condition of the
road itself is pretty poor it's already

931
01:16:22,36 --> 01:16:23,41
being used as

932
01:16:23,42 --> 01:16:28,08
a cut throat Regardless it's not you know
that's like I don't I don't think that so

933
01:16:28,09 --> 01:16:34,50
we're not our opinion that it's going to
increase you know traffic flow there are

934
01:16:34,51 --> 01:16:39,40
that it will increase the speed I mean you
can see that already for. Again I don't

935
01:16:39,41 --> 01:16:39,73
want to throw

936
01:16:39,74 --> 01:16:43,06
a wrench in what you're doing but I just
know specifically everyone shook their

937
01:16:43,07 --> 01:16:47,89
head that said that made sense of the
mitigation almost opposite Leno leave in poor

938
01:16:47,90 --> 01:16:49,97
condition just because it is such

939
01:16:49,98 --> 01:16:55,09
a cross street cross street as across
here they had to restrain him but the

940
01:16:55,58 --> 01:17:02,49
medication money came from. A trip to
place for you. That's true and sorry

941
01:17:02,50 --> 01:17:08,11
that the people don't want more prosperity
for all the years with the old state you

942
01:17:08,88 --> 01:17:15,26
have suffered considerably and we felt that
it was appropriate that the people who

943
01:17:15,27 --> 01:17:19,87
have come but the stadium
over the years granted

944
01:17:19,88 --> 01:17:24,13
a new stadium doesn't have quite the same
noise of good things like that that they

945
01:17:24,13 --> 01:17:31,08
should be to benefit from that OK.
And we notified folks along there

946
01:17:31,26 --> 01:17:32,75
and all are is this going to be

947
01:17:32,76 --> 01:17:37,23
a surprise to them when they read in the
paper this week we have no they'd be any

948
01:17:37,24 --> 01:17:41,78
more well and be as much as surprised as
when I drove down my street and found some

949
01:17:41,79 --> 01:17:48,51
street dug OK. It's not that we're not I
mean we just don't have the mechanism you

950
01:17:48,52 --> 01:17:54,99
know where I would love to do it. But didn't
have to notify anybody to do the other

951
01:17:55,00 --> 01:17:59,30
sections right because there's no land
taking Right right I just don't know why

952
01:17:59,31 --> 01:18:05,98
doing nothing like that it's strictly
reclamation and if we. Can't fix it work or

953
01:18:05,99 --> 01:18:10,53
spend right busted up your blouse it's
likely yours and you know it just since we

954
01:18:10,54 --> 01:18:15,05
have Kevin I'll be interested what your
experience in you're other towns in terms

955
01:18:15,06 --> 01:18:20,90
of notifying folks along you know such ways
that you don't legally have to but you

956
01:18:20,91 --> 01:18:24,44
know it's a matter of manpower
you know you should raise

957
01:18:24,45 --> 01:18:31,42
a prudent usually. It's always been
my practice is to have when you're

958
01:18:31,43 --> 01:18:31,67
doing

959
01:18:31,68 --> 01:18:37,71
a straight reclamation project Reclaiming
History in paving it there's no statutory

960
01:18:37,72 --> 01:18:38,90
requirement like there is with

961
01:18:38,91 --> 01:18:43,19
a grant of location on the street opening
permit Grenell cations under statue

962
01:18:43,20 --> 01:18:47,88
Street opening permits
that are by law. But as

963
01:18:47,89 --> 01:18:53,00
a courtesy. Usually what we do is have

964
01:18:53,70 --> 01:18:56,02
a meeting notify all the voters have

965
01:18:56,03 --> 01:18:59,96
a meeting at the start of the project take
them through what it is we're going to

966
01:18:59,97 --> 01:19:04,90
do so that there where will be
inconveniences with respect to close in

967
01:19:04,92 --> 01:19:09,93
a row down for paving would be dust and all
that sort of stuff in kind of tell him

968
01:19:09,93 --> 01:19:12,79
what what we're proposing to do and if
it's to search through what's being

969
01:19:12,81 --> 01:19:16,50
described we're replacing what's already
there than most people say hey that's

970
01:19:16,51 --> 01:19:21,64
great. And I can't say whether this was
done at the beginning and I don't in any

971
01:19:21,65 --> 01:19:24,57
way want to suggest we slow
things down I could still put on

972
01:19:24,58 --> 01:19:27,15
a go forward basis is that
because Larry's mentioned

973
01:19:27,15 --> 01:19:31,03
a couple of times and I just be curious I
just give you an example you know on and

974
01:19:31,13 --> 01:19:34,50
on and on Beach Street
redoing and they did it

975
01:19:34,65 --> 01:19:39,03
a year ago and they did it again this time
the problem this time for instance was I

976
01:19:39,04 --> 01:19:39,18
got

977
01:19:39,20 --> 01:19:42,83
a number of people complaining that they
started the job and it's kind of like they

978
01:19:42,85 --> 01:19:47,93
disappeared. And well it turns out that
there's three different contractors doing

979
01:19:47,97 --> 01:19:53,52
the work and there was never any coordinate
so I asked Bob I said look at why don't

980
01:19:53,53 --> 01:19:54,09
you just put

981
01:19:54,10 --> 01:19:57,81
a flyer together and just let everybody
know kind of what's going on kind of

982
01:19:57,82 --> 01:19:58,91
whether you have publicly you do

983
01:19:58,92 --> 01:20:03,27
a flyer because when these things start to
stretch out or it's going to start next

984
01:20:03,28 --> 01:20:07,14
Friday this should just be some way to
notify and what Bob's generally done in the

985
01:20:07,15 --> 01:20:11,06
past is don't have those situations he
doesn't want to fly together have some put

986
01:20:11,07 --> 01:20:14,16
him in all the all the houses I know he
doesn't put them in the mailboxes because

987
01:20:14,17 --> 01:20:17,59
that's illegal to put them in the mailboxes
and he puts them up in the house but I

988
01:20:17,60 --> 01:20:21,07
know he does go to the effort of trying
to the difficult part sometimes is his

989
01:20:21,08 --> 01:20:25,99
plans were A and then it doesn't work out
and then people start to complain that I

990
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:28,64
thought this was going to be done by next
Tuesday and now it's three weeks later

991
01:20:28,65 --> 01:20:32,04
and that kind of thing do we know whether
or not that kind of information is

992
01:20:32,05 --> 01:20:37,50
something he puts on you know website. I
don't know the about eighteen months ago

993
01:20:37,51 --> 01:20:42,41
the when Bob came in front of the advisory
committee for the five year moratorium

994
01:20:42,42 --> 01:20:44,25
when there's a new pavement there's

995
01:20:44,26 --> 01:20:46,66
a moratorium in the discussion
was well if someone has

996
01:20:46,67 --> 01:20:47,59
a house and they want to put

997
01:20:47,60 --> 01:20:51,39
a gas line in you paved it on Monday and
they were going to do it on right yeah I

998
01:20:51,40 --> 01:20:51,95
remember there is

999
01:20:51,96 --> 01:20:57,19
a formal process he's supposed to put it
in the paper. So many days in advance no

1000
01:20:57,20 --> 01:21:01,42
one gets stuck on that moratorium moratorium
unnecessarily so he may be doing it

1001
01:21:01,43 --> 01:21:05,03
but that is something that I think I went
to the planning board as well for the

1002
01:21:05,04 --> 01:21:11,38
whole more dunno got it yeah yeah it was
but they came in front and so there is

1003
01:21:11,39 --> 01:21:14,75
a formal process and there's a
great Going forward there's

1004
01:21:14,76 --> 01:21:19,71
a great little piece of software cost about
three hundred bucks very cheap. And you

1005
01:21:19,72 --> 01:21:20,22
can put it on

1006
01:21:20,23 --> 01:21:25,30
a website and you can post on the web
different projects things that the time is

1007
01:21:25,31 --> 01:21:31,97
doing and people can voluntarily sign up
for updates on that particular project so

1008
01:21:32,60 --> 01:21:35,92
that's something we could look at
going forward we're going to do

1009
01:21:35,93 --> 01:21:40,92
a project on prostrate we put it on the
website we tell people sign up and then

1010
01:21:41,25 --> 01:21:41,80
somebody does

1011
01:21:41,81 --> 01:21:46,79
a periodic update and everyone who signed
up gets that update it's of we've use it

1012
01:21:47,11 --> 01:21:52,13
my views it making them police department
for and we've got like three thousand

1013
01:21:52,14 --> 01:21:52,80
people within

1014
01:21:52,81 --> 01:21:58,43
a year that signed up for updates incredibly
effective communication tool so we can

1015
01:21:58,44 --> 01:21:59,92
do lots of things yes I see

1016
01:21:59,93 --> 01:22:04,79
a way. That you know you want it you have
to notify after the first public you know

1017
01:22:04,80 --> 01:22:09,36
vacation if it's continued
you know right now.

1018
01:22:13,11 --> 01:22:19,81
And you know notions of the book OK
so on and into Tina motioned to.

1019
01:22:21,94 --> 01:22:27,96
The rope and likewise treat
me traction so I moved second

1020
01:22:29,71 --> 01:22:35,74
and you know the discussion many of them
on fever I thought. Thank you very much

1021
01:22:35,75 --> 01:22:41,96
and I think you got us right
and I think he's meeting. You.

1022
01:22:46,52 --> 01:22:52,97
To Action I am. First.
TIME That's what you're

1023
01:22:53,23 --> 01:22:56,69
looking. Like you said one.

1024
01:23:00,40 --> 01:23:05,23
On page five. Yes.

1025
01:23:09,64 --> 01:23:10,34
It should be

1026
01:23:11,30 --> 01:23:17,70
a very last sentence should
be. Two But twelve. Oh.

1027
01:23:19,63 --> 01:23:26,41
Yeah oh. Yeah. Oh yeah no. Only known on

1028
01:23:26,42 --> 01:23:32,84
page four. Under the second paragraph
down early Sunday opening hours for the

1029
01:23:32,85 --> 01:23:37,68
ninety nine I actually recuse myself on
that meeting so it was four zero one zero

1030
01:23:37,85 --> 01:23:38,18
OK.

1031
01:23:46,01 --> 01:23:50,05
In the end the reason was it was
just a conflict of interest as a as

1032
01:23:50,06 --> 01:23:55,11
a consultant. Playing one to ask

1033
01:23:55,12 --> 01:24:00,06
a question Larry on page six of discussion
about the town audit committee.

1034
01:24:02,80 --> 01:24:05,90
A sense that says that you pointed out
some areas where explanation would be

1035
01:24:05,91 --> 01:24:10,78
especially helpful for investing that if
it's particularly It should be open open

1036
01:24:10,79 --> 01:24:17,18
your you trust your kill. I would say or
other accounts were money sitting idle

1037
01:24:17,19 --> 01:24:22,11
since it's not sitting idle in the open
correct that's just got to be or and just

1038
01:24:22,12 --> 01:24:26,84
so for Kevin sake the question that we had
there for the audit committee I serve on

1039
01:24:26,85 --> 01:24:32,03
the audit committee for the town but that.
We funded our open trust account this

1040
01:24:32,07 --> 01:24:34,52
past town meeting by taking

1041
01:24:34,97 --> 01:24:40,92
a million three or something from two
other accounts that had no longer

1042
01:24:40,93 --> 01:24:43,91
a need for the funds that have been
appropriated and they've been sitting there for

1043
01:24:43,92 --> 01:24:50,66
about six years and so. Those move there
and so the question that I asked the

1044
01:24:50,82 --> 01:24:55,60
finance director of the time was who knew
about those funds and the answer was he

1045
01:24:55,61 --> 01:24:59,53
did in the town manager did and I said
well did the advisory committee know that

1046
01:24:59,54 --> 01:25:03,92
they were idle funds or did the Board of
Selectmen know and so what I what I asked

1047
01:25:03,93 --> 01:25:09,07
at the audit committee meeting was that
how many other accounts do we have across

1048
01:25:09,08 --> 01:25:13,19
our many many accounts where
money money was set aside for

1049
01:25:13,20 --> 01:25:18,12
a legitimate reason and for whatever reason
it's it was either more than we needed

1050
01:25:18,13 --> 01:25:22,39
or the reason want to weigh in the money
is still sitting there and that we should

1051
01:25:22,85 --> 01:25:23,13
have

1052
01:25:23,14 --> 01:25:26,71
a complete list so that not just the finance
for the town manager know what that

1053
01:25:26,72 --> 01:25:30,15
list is but that the Board of Selectmen the
school committee the advisory committee

1054
01:25:30,19 --> 01:25:35,28
all know where those funds might be and
whether it's you know ten dollars or one

1055
01:25:35,29 --> 01:25:39,24
hundred thousand or whatever it might be
because as we look in these tough budget

1056
01:25:39,25 --> 01:25:41,89
times we were able to take and make

1057
01:25:41,90 --> 01:25:46,52
a large deposit into the open account by
those two accounts and I don't know how

1058
01:25:46,53 --> 01:25:50,35
many other accounts there might be so the
whole purpose of this was really and

1059
01:25:50,36 --> 01:25:53,21
again we tried to make the point there's
no hiding of funds there's nothing

1060
01:25:53,22 --> 01:25:57,26
inappropriate but you know money gets put
away for certain things and sometimes you

1061
01:25:57,27 --> 01:26:00,67
just don't spend it all and it's there in
other cases the reason why you were going

1062
01:26:00,68 --> 01:26:05,12
to do it one way as it there with these
two cases in the million three and so we

1063
01:26:05,13 --> 01:26:05,85
just wanted to kind of

1064
01:26:05,86 --> 01:26:09,18
a complete list of that and so that's
kind of what that discussion was about or

1065
01:26:09,29 --> 01:26:13,37
have you gotten that yet no we just well
what we talked about the audit committee.

1066
01:26:14,17 --> 01:26:20,86
Was to add an air of independence
and transparency to it that our

1067
01:26:20,87 --> 01:26:26,33
outside auditor who has been our auditor
for many years. We we were going to put

1068
01:26:26,34 --> 01:26:30,84
a proposal together for them asking
them to prepare the list so it be their

1069
01:26:30,85 --> 01:26:34,75
independent review of where they think
money is sitting in accounts that you know

1070
01:26:34,76 --> 01:26:38,24
so you know Randy would often obviously
interact with them but it would be an

1071
01:26:38,25 --> 01:26:42,56
independent view and the thinking of the
finance the up at the audit committee was

1072
01:26:42,57 --> 01:26:47,21
that they'd be able to do it very very
inexpensively and so Randy was going to put

1073
01:26:47,22 --> 01:26:47,65
together

1074
01:26:47,69 --> 01:26:52,51
a request for proposal with Paul Jackson
who was the finance manager for the

1075
01:26:52,52 --> 01:26:54,34
schools the two of them were going to put

1076
01:26:54,35 --> 01:26:58,08
a proposal gather and ask the
public accounting firm to give us

1077
01:26:58,09 --> 01:27:01,03
a quote for what it would cost to do that
and then obviously they would work with

1078
01:27:01,04 --> 01:27:03,12
the two of them and put

1079
01:27:03,13 --> 01:27:06,43
a list together for the audit committee
then from the audit committee to the rest

1080
01:27:06,44 --> 01:27:10,63
of us so this was something that was going
to be done so we did what we just you

1081
01:27:10,64 --> 01:27:14,85
know we just agreed to at the last audit
committee meeting which was you know three

1082
01:27:14,86 --> 01:27:19,63
weeks ago two weeks ago so it's an action
item for follow up I'm sure it is well in

1083
01:27:19,64 --> 01:27:24,24
the way but I'll check with them right
now to get back to the board. So I kept

1084
01:27:24,25 --> 01:27:28,73
a few questions on that one
comment is I think there's

1085
01:27:28,74 --> 01:27:32,87
a little bit of confusion because I don't
think I've got the exact details on the

1086
01:27:32,96 --> 01:27:36,33
you know money that went in and I don't
think was idle for six years I think it was

1087
01:27:36,69 --> 01:27:37,47
there for

1088
01:27:37,48 --> 01:27:43,78
a reason and then Andy and Randy. Determined
that it was no longer necessary and

1089
01:27:43,79 --> 01:27:48,01
then moved it over to plan or asset have
been moved over so when I think you're

1090
01:27:48,02 --> 01:27:51,49
wrong I think what the issue was that
the funds were set aside for legitimate

1091
01:27:51,50 --> 01:27:56,24
purposes right. Those legitimate
purposes ceased to exist

1092
01:27:56,31 --> 01:28:02,41
a number of years ago six whatever years
ago Randy said to me that he uncovered the

1093
01:28:02,42 --> 01:28:05,81
accounts when he first got here but what
they decided is they didn't know what they

1094
01:28:05,82 --> 01:28:09,99
were going to do with the money and so
they they wanted to wait so it wasn't like

1095
01:28:10,70 --> 01:28:15,10
you know last spring they made the
determination that it was we took

1096
01:28:15,11 --> 01:28:18,66
a vote that there were no longer necessary
for that purpose but in fact the

1097
01:28:18,67 --> 01:28:23,26
accounts had not had any activity in an
extended period of time you know I agree

1098
01:28:23,27 --> 01:28:29,74
that. I can see where they sat there for
six years but I don't think if they sat

1099
01:28:29,75 --> 01:28:36,57
there six years in that those two fellows
were unaware of you know you know

1100
01:28:36,61 --> 01:28:40,07
we have this found money and I don't think
it was found money is my point because I

1101
01:28:40,08 --> 01:28:44,50
think the public you know might get that
view from this the way it was discussed

1102
01:28:44,51 --> 01:28:48,99
appropriations from toe meeting for something
that ended up not being yes that one

1103
01:28:49,00 --> 01:28:52,85
had to do with it maybe Lorraine knows
about the retirement account and how we're

1104
01:28:52,86 --> 01:28:56,26
going to fund retirement and then the state
took over and so we didn't need to put

1105
01:28:56,27 --> 01:29:00,84
that money away workers' comp Oh it was
workers' comp and the other one was Workers

1106
01:29:00,85 --> 01:29:04,69
Comp I know there were times when you're
speaking of the period of time when if you

1107
01:29:05,13 --> 01:29:08,85
put up money the state would match it and
and that all went away eventually right

1108
01:29:09,21 --> 01:29:15,37
before your funding plan I think knowing
that OPEC was coming the car was well I

1109
01:29:15,38 --> 01:29:19,47
had to just wait until it came right right
on there but my point was that it had

1110
01:29:19,48 --> 01:29:23,94
been six years since they had identified
that legitimately they didn't need it for

1111
01:29:23,95 --> 01:29:30,36
the stated purpose that it was put there
and what bothered me was that the

1112
01:29:30,37 --> 01:29:34,29
impression I had was that the advisory
committee was not aware of that the Board of

1113
01:29:34,30 --> 01:29:38,72
Selectmen was not aware of it of the
scrutiny so all I was saying was that we all

1114
01:29:38,73 --> 01:29:43,08
ought to know where that is and for instance
I'll give you an example there may be

1115
01:29:43,09 --> 01:29:50,08
accounts for instance. You do. Motor
Vehicle Excise Tax and you do those on

1116
01:29:50,09 --> 01:29:55,12
an annual basis and use used to. Some
reserves for the ones that are going to be

1117
01:29:55,13 --> 01:30:00,21
paid well some of those reserves can be
overstated or understated the auditor is

1118
01:30:00,22 --> 01:30:04,39
looking at those that may not be materially
different again all I'm looking for is

1119
01:30:04,59 --> 01:30:08,95
the author to commit in Tell Me Where does
he where does the firm believe and then

1120
01:30:08,96 --> 01:30:10,72
we'll get the two finance manages to

1121
01:30:10,73 --> 01:30:16,45
a pint as well where do they feel as
though there could be you know monies that

1122
01:30:16,46 --> 01:30:17,03
could be used for

1123
01:30:17,04 --> 01:30:20,80
a different purpose and it's really
other departments too like writers who

1124
01:30:20,87 --> 01:30:24,54
absolutely absolutely we've asked for all
of the accounts the school the water the

1125
01:30:24,55 --> 01:30:29,07
sewer the town just to look and you
know one of the issues that came up and

1126
01:30:29,08 --> 01:30:32,60
Lorraine knows this because she was the
liaison to the school committee but when I

1127
01:30:32,61 --> 01:30:33,59
got on the school committee we had

1128
01:30:33,60 --> 01:30:37,11
a lot of revolving accounts that are not
been discussed in public and so we made

1129
01:30:37,12 --> 01:30:40,69
a WE MADE A We went through all the
accounts we analyzed the accounts and once

1130
01:30:40,70 --> 01:30:41,42
a quarter we would do

1131
01:30:41,43 --> 01:30:45,25
a public you know meeting where we talk
about each of the revolving accounts what

1132
01:30:45,26 --> 01:30:47,88
kind of activity and they had some
revolving accounts that had been used for

1133
01:30:47,89 --> 01:30:51,17
a long time either and it built up hundreds
and hundreds of thousands dollars for

1134
01:30:51,18 --> 01:30:54,75
the balances so what we do in the school
committee for instance when we needed to

1135
01:30:55,50 --> 01:31:00,81
redo all that all the the benches in the
auditorium we use the revolving house we

1136
01:31:00,82 --> 01:31:06,22
started using the revolving accounts for
one time kinds of things and so we have

1137
01:31:06,23 --> 01:31:10,71
the transparency on the revolving accounts
in the school don't necessarily have it

1138
01:31:10,72 --> 01:31:13,59
on all of the what I'll call the general
ledger accounts around the town side of

1139
01:31:13,60 --> 01:31:17,73
the water sewer so it's no you know no
one's saying that anybody's done anything

1140
01:31:17,74 --> 01:31:23,71
wrong or anything appropriate but. I just
think would be helpful if we all knew

1141
01:31:23,78 --> 01:31:29,58
where the cookie jar is right I guess my
only point Larry drop it is that it just

1142
01:31:30,27 --> 01:31:35,76
seems somewhat loaded when you say that
it's you know you know transparency in

1143
01:31:36,13 --> 01:31:40,53
because I do think it's transparent it's
just open secret and it's kind of arcane

1144
01:31:40,54 --> 01:31:45,69
and boring accounting deposition credits
that that's my point but when you were the

1145
01:31:45,70 --> 01:31:50,10
chairman of the advisory committee were you
aware. Well you were those two accounts

1146
01:31:50,20 --> 01:31:50,37
with

1147
01:31:50,38 --> 01:31:54,24
a million three in there that had no
activity and could be redirected to another

1148
01:31:54,25 --> 01:31:58,25
purpose such as Open that would've been
four or five years ago I just don't recall

1149
01:31:58,29 --> 01:32:03,35
in that although I must say that's
kind of thing that I can imagine

1150
01:32:04,11 --> 01:32:08,25
a conversation with really I'm like OK
Next write when I asked because it's all

1151
01:32:08,26 --> 01:32:11,77
according to plan but at the audit
committee I asked the current I think he's

1152
01:32:11,78 --> 01:32:15,85
chairman of the of the advisory committee
if they get this kind of information if

1153
01:32:15,86 --> 01:32:19,61
they review this kind of information the
answer was No And so again and one of the

1154
01:32:19,62 --> 01:32:25,56
issues is that it's in the purview of the
audit committee to be aware of that well

1155
01:32:25,57 --> 01:32:31,62
you know and so it's that gray areas diffuse
responsible so as an example Paul. The

1156
01:32:32,32 --> 01:32:33,39
audit committee member made

1157
01:32:33,40 --> 01:32:36,87
a mention about the fact that well gee if
you look as we started to look on some of

1158
01:32:36,88 --> 01:32:40,14
the accounts again there's hundreds and
hundreds of accounts so what we see in the

1159
01:32:40,15 --> 01:32:44,72
audit report is everything is very you
know one account that breaks into fifteen

1160
01:32:44,73 --> 01:32:48,23
accounts kind of thing but the question was
that you know in water and sewer as an

1161
01:32:48,24 --> 01:32:49,82
example there were some there was

1162
01:32:49,83 --> 01:32:53,42
a discussion around some funds that are
sitting in some accounts there that

1163
01:32:53,43 --> 01:32:58,17
probably could be redirected to do some
other things and so and what I what I said

1164
01:32:58,18 --> 01:33:03,77
to Brian was Brian when you're when you're
looking at the water and sewer budgets

1165
01:33:03,78 --> 01:33:07,55
as part of the Advisory Committee and
they're presenting things to you are they

1166
01:33:07,56 --> 01:33:11,84
presenting their budget or they also first
I think to you their accounts and where

1167
01:33:11,85 --> 01:33:15,34
they might have some money that could cover
that project of this project or that

1168
01:33:15,35 --> 01:33:20,08
economy things around. And his answer was
No they don't resent that and so all I

1169
01:33:20,09 --> 01:33:24,45
was trying to say is that. I think that
the advisory committee the board of

1170
01:33:24,46 --> 01:33:28,10
selectmen the school committee should know
because you know as is the things get

1171
01:33:28,11 --> 01:33:32,90
tougher and we may have to go into some
of those accounts and say for those for

1172
01:33:32,91 --> 01:33:36,08
those accounts where the money's no longer
necessary let's move it in areas that

1173
01:33:36,09 --> 01:33:39,44
are necessary whether it's in the
hall renovations or it happens to be

1174
01:33:39,70 --> 01:33:43,87
a roof leak or whatever it happens to be
but I think we as the policymakers need to

1175
01:33:43,88 --> 01:33:48,09
know as opposed to just having the finance
folks know with us you know what that

1176
01:33:48,10 --> 01:33:52,83
number. I don't know what it adds up to I
think we should I think what I'm hearing

1177
01:33:53,31 --> 01:33:58,84
is that the board wants to be sure. That
if there are revenue sources available

1178
01:33:58,88 --> 01:33:59,49
particularly in

1179
01:33:59,50 --> 01:34:04,31
a time like this one or budgets are so
constrained you want to be aware of that so

1180
01:34:04,32 --> 01:34:06,97
that you can fold that into your
decision making process during

1181
01:34:06,98 --> 01:34:12,90
a budget and I just I just want to show
you have already had conversation of Andy

1182
01:34:12,91 --> 01:34:17,16
and Randy and they've already you know
Randy's already been thinking about.

1183
01:34:20,15 --> 01:34:23,97
Sort of melding some ideas he's
gotten some ideas I have to produce

1184
01:34:23,98 --> 01:34:29,60
a more robust document for you in the
advisory committee about our revenues and one

1185
01:34:29,61 --> 01:34:35,24
standard section of that document.
Ironically is this it's.

1186
01:34:36,33 --> 01:34:41,07
Appropriation balances from prior years and
probably what you're going to which are

1187
01:34:41,08 --> 01:34:44,76
going to find to Foxborough as is typical
and I have no reason to think it doesn't

1188
01:34:45,19 --> 01:34:50,99
is it is going to be a bunch
of them and. What the C.F.O.

1189
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:55,35
Is always striving to do is to get the
departments to tell him that the purposes

1190
01:34:55,36 --> 01:34:59,38
for which the money was appropriate is no
longer necessary and the departments are

1191
01:34:59,39 --> 01:35:03,80
always pushing back saying no no no I
still need that well you've had it on the

1192
01:35:03,81 --> 01:35:07,41
books for six years and you haven't done
anything with it do you really still need

1193
01:35:07,42 --> 01:35:11,08
that and so it's always a little
bit of a tug of war in the C.F.O.

1194
01:35:11,09 --> 01:35:15,30
Always Tom a concierge of tries to be
reasonable and you might be seeing

1195
01:35:15,31 --> 01:35:18,74
a manifestation of that were you know
there was some hope that they'd be some

1196
01:35:18,75 --> 01:35:23,69
activity and then that of not being but
standard part of what we will be doing for

1197
01:35:23,70 --> 01:35:28,91
you is making sure that you're aware of
that and if if the auditor can do something

1198
01:35:28,92 --> 01:35:30,71
real quickly for

1199
01:35:30,72 --> 01:35:35,40
a very low fee that will just reduce the
amount of work that Randy I'll need to do

1200
01:35:35,44 --> 01:35:40,20
to prepare this part of the revenue forecast
this year so it will be great but I'm

1201
01:35:40,21 --> 01:35:47,19
sure having. I think I can say with
absolute absolute assurance of the board

1202
01:35:47,93 --> 01:35:53,24
having sat with Randi and India at this
point that. There wasn't any presumption on

1203
01:35:53,25 --> 01:35:58,06
their part that these funds were not going
to be needed at some point and there

1204
01:35:58,07 --> 01:36:03,77
just wasn't the fog to tell you. And so
I'm glad that it got out there I'm glad I

1205
01:36:03,78 --> 01:36:10,10
will on the good news side. There's only
one time the state that's funded opened up

1206
01:36:10,22 --> 01:36:11,54
Wellesley and they did it with

1207
01:36:11,55 --> 01:36:16,52
a bond issue and an override believe it or
not and is probably only five places on

1208
01:36:16,53 --> 01:36:18,17
the planet that could do it and Wells

1209
01:36:18,18 --> 01:36:24,80
a little one of them. But there are less
than five towns in the state other than

1210
01:36:24,81 --> 01:36:31,62
Wellesley that have even begun funding all
PEB and I can't wait to call the C.F.O.

1211
01:36:31,81 --> 01:36:36,37
And hang him in the morning and tell him
fudge bowls got more and it's all pub fun

1212
01:36:36,38 --> 01:36:39,55
than hang them doesn't have fun when I
tell them that they thought they were way

1213
01:36:39,56 --> 01:36:46,48
ahead. So I it's you know I want one
of. The others present first page

1214
01:36:46,84 --> 01:36:52,02
at the to phone to me only. They were
visiting us but they're actually from the

1215
01:36:52,03 --> 01:36:56,20
Chamber of Commerce not the Industrial
Development Committee which we're trying to

1216
01:36:56,28 --> 01:36:58,48
form that OK can you have it.

1217
01:37:03,44 --> 01:37:04,80
And make

1218
01:37:04,81 --> 01:37:08,94
a motion to approve the minutes of September
twentieth two thousand and ten as

1219
01:37:08,95 --> 01:37:15,46
amended as amended second. And you know
the discussion on the right right now.

1220
01:37:19,81 --> 01:37:21,83
Next is an invitation to attend

1221
01:37:21,84 --> 01:37:27,37
a meeting what you represent. To the
collective bargaining process with what you

1222
01:37:27,38 --> 01:37:33,61
just ration for that so these occasional
school is probably over now right yeah

1223
01:37:34,81 --> 01:37:34,96
yeah.

1224
01:37:43,95 --> 01:37:50,57
Next I remember as constable.
Three year John. Morris.

1225
01:37:55,39 --> 01:37:56,52
We asked this last time what's

1226
01:37:56,53 --> 01:38:03,47
a constable do. They can do
lots of things for you and

1227
01:38:03,48 --> 01:38:08,77
generally speaking by virtue of you point
of them they do it for free. We will

1228
01:38:08,78 --> 01:38:14,18
occasionally have different kinds of civil
process that needs to be served. Tom

1229
01:38:14,18 --> 01:38:17,53
meeting warrants have to be
posted and that's a that's

1230
01:38:17,55 --> 01:38:22,35
a Usually the biological saying if it's
solid the statute will say Posted by

1231
01:38:22,36 --> 01:38:28,45
a constable and that's if you don't work
this deal out we're going to give you an

1232
01:38:28,46 --> 01:38:29,34
appointment which is

1233
01:38:29,35 --> 01:38:35,22
a very lucrative appointment by the way
it's financially worth a great deal but

1234
01:38:35,24 --> 01:38:38,74
a condition of that is you're going to
serve our civil process for free of the

1235
01:38:38,76 --> 01:38:41,74
civil process you might
need served any kind of

1236
01:38:41,76 --> 01:38:43,56
a legal notice where we want to return

1237
01:38:43,58 --> 01:38:49,70
a service as proof that it was
delivered in hand. And I do

1238
01:38:49,70 --> 01:38:53,64
a lot of that I was saying of course of
your I'll do that ten or twenty times for

1239
01:38:54,13 --> 01:39:00,41
a variety of notices not registered mail
because that goes through the mail and

1240
01:39:00,42 --> 01:39:05,43
people of course refuse to go get it
little different thing when the constable

1241
01:39:05,44 --> 01:39:10,38
shows up at your door and says I've got
this you're served and then he returned it

1242
01:39:10,39 --> 01:39:16,63
saying body was served so they can do
lots for you so anyone who we approve is

1243
01:39:16,64 --> 01:39:19,02
Constable presumably week chemical it's

1244
01:39:19,03 --> 01:39:23,44
a long as you make that part of the condition
of the other point on that before we

1245
01:39:23,45 --> 01:39:26,51
will so notify them and
I've never once found

1246
01:39:26,52 --> 01:39:30,31
a constable who found it in any way
objectionable you probably get

1247
01:39:30,32 --> 01:39:35,54
a list of three or four or five constables
you point out and we wouldn't tap one of

1248
01:39:35,55 --> 01:39:39,35
them to do all this would rotate the
work among them and it's not really

1249
01:39:39,36 --> 01:39:44,84
a big problem right. Didn't.

1250
01:39:47,58 --> 01:39:52,35
So in that case Kevin we we won't necessarily
want to make this contingent upon

1251
01:39:52,82 --> 01:39:55,61
what we just talked about because it's
probably happening now you don't have to let

1252
01:39:55,62 --> 01:40:00,18
me just and I just say you know we'll call
him up and say hey you're an appointed

1253
01:40:00,19 --> 01:40:06,64
Constable we need to serve please take
care of it for us and if they say no I'll

1254
01:40:06,65 --> 01:40:10,00
report that to you and that will be part
of your consideration at renewal next them

1255
01:40:10,04 --> 01:40:11,24
OK so I would make

1256
01:40:11,25 --> 01:40:16,55
a motion we approve the application
for Paul Martin for constable for

1257
01:40:16,56 --> 01:40:21,85
a term expiring October twenty third two
thousand and thirteen second that motion

1258
01:40:22,23 --> 01:40:28,51
questioning. What we do so so this is

1259
01:40:28,52 --> 01:40:34,25
a reappointment All right is there any
background check or anything else that's

1260
01:40:34,26 --> 01:40:38,66
done to make sure that the person who
was approved three years ago hasn't had

1261
01:40:38,79 --> 01:40:43,71
problems in the last three years that
would make them not fit to be reappointed

1262
01:40:44,41 --> 01:40:50,14
what due diligence do we do on constables
before they get approved it's completely

1263
01:40:50,15 --> 01:40:53,44
up to you different boards
handle it different ways and

1264
01:40:53,45 --> 01:40:58,31
a lots of boards just reappoint other
boards as the police chief to do

1265
01:40:58,58 --> 01:41:05,56
a CORI check. To see if anything pops up.
So it's really is really the board's

1266
01:41:05,57 --> 01:41:12,17
prerogative my suggestion to you is that.
Whatever you think is appropriate you

1267
01:41:12,18 --> 01:41:15,66
have a policy which I'll be happy
to draft you know whenever you have

1268
01:41:15,67 --> 01:41:16,70
a subject you want

1269
01:41:16,82 --> 01:41:20,76
a policy on either board American draft
or all draft that and that you have

1270
01:41:20,77 --> 01:41:23,83
a standard policy for all
constables requiring

1271
01:41:23,84 --> 01:41:29,29
a. Kori check on renewal or something
like that would you think having

1272
01:41:29,30 --> 01:41:33,36
a CORI check before they're renewed or
subject to the dissatisfactory court check

1273
01:41:33,37 --> 01:41:40,27
is appropriate to request my board in
Easton did yes. So I just think you know

1274
01:41:40,28 --> 01:41:44,94
after you through what through over the
last month. You know I did to ensure

1275
01:41:44,95 --> 01:41:48,30
a full transparency and full accountability
it would seem to me that we would at

1276
01:41:48,31 --> 01:41:52,99
least want to do something to make
sure that the person doesn't have

1277
01:41:53,00 --> 01:41:58,73
a criminal record or refuse it was have to
disqualify your motion subject to Corey

1278
01:41:58,74 --> 01:42:05,26
check subject your card check that with
his appointment. Expires on the twenty

1279
01:42:05,30 --> 01:42:11,17
third twenty third of October October but
we do appreciate in the five minutes you

1280
01:42:11,18 --> 01:42:16,90
know she can do what I can to I think she
can do it. Again and again as you can

1281
01:42:16,91 --> 01:42:20,49
with that yeah you see the I mean these
days you put the cory in the story together

1282
01:42:21,10 --> 01:42:26,06
the sex offender and the criminal together
you know other than that OK. I mean

1283
01:42:26,07 --> 01:42:32,91
that's right yeah and yet
when you live is going on in

1284
01:42:32,92 --> 01:42:37,83
favor. Next.

1285
01:42:42,92 --> 01:42:49,32
Placements of the associate
members for the recreation but of

1286
01:42:49,33 --> 01:42:55,80
recreation you and. Tell

1287
01:42:55,81 --> 01:43:00,81
me two thousand and eleven
that maybe I mean you know.

1288
01:43:03,01 --> 01:43:09,41
You know it's not. Doesn't
So I would move to

1289
01:43:09,42 --> 01:43:13,50
a point Allison asking this and James
grayness associate members to the board of

1290
01:43:13,51 --> 01:43:18,84
recreation with the term expiring May
first two thousand and eleven second.

1291
01:43:19,95 --> 01:43:26,84
Discussion I think I. Just I assume
on these ones you don't think it says

1292
01:43:26,85 --> 01:43:29,18
I don't think it's necessary but
you know that is necessary to do

1293
01:43:29,19 --> 01:43:34,88
a CORI I don't but it you know we just
talked about of the constable which

1294
01:43:36,74 --> 01:43:41,15
constable actually gets a badge you know
and there's a whole different place in

1295
01:43:41,16 --> 01:43:47,29
a sense involuntary right yeah. OK this is

1296
01:43:48,17 --> 01:43:53,63
the redeployment of Mary Buckland I want
to get time for the National Cultural

1297
01:43:53,71 --> 01:44:00,61
Council. Pauline is

1298
01:44:00,62 --> 01:44:02,22
on this as well as read on this for

1299
01:44:02,23 --> 01:44:05,87
a long long period times and great work
must be the only one that's not being

1300
01:44:05,88 --> 01:44:09,24
reappointed right now and actually go for

1301
01:44:09,28 --> 01:44:16,26
a yes. I to which wife if you allow

1302
01:44:16,26 --> 01:44:21,33
them well the the first one is for
one year but the second one of

1303
01:44:21,37 --> 01:44:24,42
a three year terms that was I had

1304
01:44:24,43 --> 01:44:28,08
a question on that with this this second
piece after this we've got five people

1305
01:44:29,07 --> 01:44:29,97
being recommended for

1306
01:44:29,98 --> 01:44:35,14
a three year term and I guess Mary Buckland's
not on that list because hers is just

1307
01:44:35,15 --> 01:44:40,03
one more year which is my last year she
can do three Yeah oh that's right because

1308
01:44:40,04 --> 01:44:45,64
that's all that right. Yeah so I'd
move to reappoint very Buckland for

1309
01:44:45,65 --> 01:44:52,23
a one year term to the Fox for cultural
counsel. And you know the discussion all in

1310
01:44:52,24 --> 01:44:57,93
favor of I think they're.
OK The other five.

1311
01:45:04,64 --> 01:45:10,30
Motions to appoint. You know Forrester Mark
smiled Carolyn Goeden Paula bishop and

1312
01:45:10,31 --> 01:45:16,36
Rosemary Smith for terms on the new
book Cultural Council expiring

1313
01:45:16,98 --> 01:45:23,76
ten twelve two thousand and thirteen.
The second. The other discussion on

1314
01:45:23,77 --> 01:45:30,29
that island ever I write your. Next

1315
01:45:30,66 --> 01:45:37,62
six hundred nation from yard sale proceeds
to the control get money from black.

1316
01:45:38,98 --> 01:45:42,57
To. Accept the donation with
gratitude Second you have

1317
01:45:42,58 --> 01:45:52,29
a discussion on the right. I

1318
01:45:52,30 --> 01:45:53,32
request to operate

1319
01:45:53,33 --> 01:45:59,65
a pedicab service to and from
Gillette Stadium. Is it even

1320
01:46:00,62 --> 01:46:01,24
much my.

1321
01:46:07,74 --> 01:46:14,49
Choice. You don't know is that I

1322
01:46:14,50 --> 01:46:14,98
gave

1323
01:46:14,99 --> 01:46:20,72
a three wheeled bicycle that you write
your driver pedals and you can give people

1324
01:46:20,73 --> 01:46:26,60
rides up to four people and they've been
doing in Boston for about six years and

1325
01:46:26,61 --> 01:46:27,61
it's actually it's like

1326
01:46:27,62 --> 01:46:34,53
a stable family now and at. What
I call Fleet Center now you

1327
01:46:34,54 --> 01:46:41,48
guard the guard. And. I'd like to
open one on Route one in Foxboro

1328
01:46:41,49 --> 01:46:48,24
here. First trip of two miles from
the North Street intersection to the

1329
01:46:48,25 --> 01:46:55,09
Pine Street intersection and. I don't
know how I would have done this

1330
01:46:55,12 --> 01:46:59,56
to you or what I should have done for him
but I have these for you I don't know if

1331
01:46:59,58 --> 01:47:00,24
I can to you know.

1332
01:47:06,63 --> 01:47:07,96
Leave paper on the back is just

1333
01:47:07,97 --> 01:47:15,62
a matter of life. And. I

1334
01:47:15,90 --> 01:47:21,12
know and. I'd like. There's
a slice of stop or

1335
01:47:21,13 --> 01:47:26,81
a twenty pedicabs along Route one
and around Fox Gillette Stadium.

1336
01:47:28,28 --> 01:47:29,20
Understand safety is

1337
01:47:29,21 --> 01:47:35,80
a real issue and that's our number one.
Concerned you were all trained and

1338
01:47:36,33 --> 01:47:43,13
the ranger this past season if you guys
allow it. The drivers would be from Boston

1339
01:47:43,21 --> 01:47:49,21
who have all just. Completed the season
around them way around Boston in general

1340
01:47:49,82 --> 01:47:55,38
but it be my hope that next year I would
take from the community of Foxboro. Kids

1341
01:47:55,39 --> 01:48:00,30
home from college and so forth I mean I
don't know how many older guys I'll get

1342
01:48:00,71 --> 01:48:06,75
a pretty manual and standard
labor intensive job. So

1343
01:48:07,74 --> 01:48:14,52
that's it I don't know what else. So
and you have you spoken to the chief

1344
01:48:15,23 --> 01:48:21,67
about this did you guys can. You know
I talked to the state troopers during

1345
01:48:21,68 --> 01:48:25,33
a preseason game and they all stead O.

1346
01:48:25,34 --> 01:48:29,48
Some form of course so he said his line
as long as I stayed out of the way of

1347
01:48:29,49 --> 01:48:35,26
traffic and I think actually would
be safer than it is in Boston. As

1348
01:48:35,26 --> 01:48:40,59
a clean slate no one's ever been injured
but. I mean you guys seen the group wander

1349
01:48:40,60 --> 01:48:46,21
in the game it's gridlock so we would ride
in the shoulder between the pad people

1350
01:48:46,23 --> 01:48:52,60
and in the cars but I
am very safe and it's.

1351
01:48:54,70 --> 01:48:57,94
FOXBOROUGH like you are Gillette would
like to have you seen the letter from the

1352
01:48:57,95 --> 01:49:03,40
police chief you know to go. I have

1353
01:49:03,41 --> 01:49:08,19
a concern that it had to be invented those
games and walking up from North Street

1354
01:49:08,78 --> 01:49:15,28
on one. Between the twelve
people why I try to walk on the

1355
01:49:15,29 --> 01:49:20,19
sidewalk and people walking on the streets
and the cars back and forth I don't know

1356
01:49:20,20 --> 01:49:25,67
how you do how you you know operate this.
Other than while the game's going on and

1357
01:49:25,68 --> 01:49:29,92
there's no one walking back and forth
because it is so crowded walking before the

1358
01:49:29,93 --> 01:49:33,81
game and after the game I don't know
how you could do it in an efficient or

1359
01:49:33,82 --> 01:49:38,94
effective manner and the safety of the
people walking in the cars and everything

1360
01:49:38,95 --> 01:49:45,85
else I have some real concerns about it.
All bikes have lights on the front in the

1361
01:49:45,86 --> 01:49:51,58
back and. It's not like the headlights
just to be able to be seen and I've seen

1362
01:49:51,59 --> 01:49:55,35
them in Boston so I know what they are and
I've seen him in other in other states I

1363
01:49:55,36 --> 01:50:00,27
just don't know that
that it's practical for

1364
01:50:00,28 --> 01:50:03,93
a long route one in the section of town
that you're talking about from you know not

1365
01:50:03,94 --> 01:50:08,83
Street to Main Street I agree although I'd
feel differently if the so the chief of

1366
01:50:08,83 --> 01:50:10,15
police basically says if you get

1367
01:50:10,15 --> 01:50:15,65
a specific letter from the state police
that would be something he would expect if

1368
01:50:15,65 --> 01:50:18,45
the state police say it's
OK that it's you know not

1369
01:50:18,46 --> 01:50:22,83
a safety problem I wouldn't have brought
him with it it's his money to lose you

1370
01:50:22,83 --> 01:50:29,69
know yeah I mean I go he's going to
get that's I mean that seems like

1371
01:50:29,70 --> 01:50:33,86
a tough nut to crack at Met from the
state police but I would expect that at

1372
01:50:33,87 --> 01:50:39,22
a minimum I guess they're
going to say I have

1373
01:50:39,23 --> 01:50:43,96
a lot of concerns because I also walked
out and you know one one hand the state.

1374
01:50:45,15 --> 01:50:52,13
Police that you talked to that would
maybe doing the traffic detail. You

1375
01:50:52,14 --> 01:50:55,76
know that this is you can use it on the
sidewalk even if they let you use it on the

1376
01:50:55,77 --> 01:51:01,67
sidewalk question but it's jammed with
people and chief all areas saying that the

1377
01:51:01,71 --> 01:51:07,14
breakdown lane where you would use it is
used for traffic use for cars I just can't

1378
01:51:07,15 --> 01:51:12,97
see how you going to get that bicycle from
North Street route one up through one

1379
01:51:12,98 --> 01:51:17,91
and not interfere with you that that has
trans or the cars and I took my bike there

1380
01:51:17,92 --> 01:51:23,15
once and the police told me to get off
the real one you know and it's just not

1381
01:51:23,94 --> 01:51:25,65
bicycle friendly in the city where it's

1382
01:51:25,66 --> 01:51:30,59
a little tighter Yes it's probably more
conflict. But you've got three lanes of

1383
01:51:30,60 --> 01:51:33,75
traffic going on Route one with all
the pedestrians and everyone's in

1384
01:51:33,76 --> 01:51:38,52
a rush to get to the game there's no
meandering in sight seeing it's just you're

1385
01:51:38,53 --> 01:51:43,93
going in you're coming back. I don't know
how I can support this at this at this

1386
01:51:43,94 --> 01:51:44,70
time but at

1387
01:51:44,71 --> 01:51:50,87
a minimum I think you need to go to the
captain of the state police and you need to

1388
01:51:50,88 --> 01:51:54,28
sit down and talk to the police chief
as well and you need to get at least

1389
01:51:54,29 --> 01:51:58,36
recommendations from both of them before
before I would even consider acting and

1390
01:51:58,37 --> 01:52:03,40
even then I just want you to be to be it
will be candid with you that I'm not sure

1391
01:52:03,41 --> 01:52:08,02
that it's practical and it's it is easy
to say it's your money you know but you

1392
01:52:08,03 --> 01:52:09,04
know I don't want to see

1393
01:52:09,74 --> 01:52:13,72
a young entrepreneur put out the kind of
money you don't have to put out to do this

1394
01:52:13,76 --> 01:52:18,75
if it's really not going to work and so. I
just I doubt I think you need to really

1395
01:52:18,76 --> 01:52:21,00
look at your business plan or they
can be really be up there for

1396
01:52:21,01 --> 01:52:25,05
a couple of games and see what it's really
like and and how you might really work

1397
01:52:25,06 --> 01:52:28,78
at it not work it and then sit down with
the chief of police and the captain or the

1398
01:52:29,06 --> 01:52:32,78
whatever the head of the state police is
if they're in the barracks and talk to

1399
01:52:32,79 --> 01:52:39,71
them and then come back to us if you've
been up there yeah yeah yeah you're right.

1400
01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:45,43
When you're trying to
move by street that can.

1401
01:52:47,38 --> 01:52:47,94
I don't want to be

1402
01:52:47,95 --> 01:52:54,79
a wet blanket or rain on this you know
just remember that my face started off an

1403
01:52:54,80 --> 01:52:57,46
enterprising young college guy
and he's a billionaire in

1404
01:52:57,47 --> 01:53:04,34
a house on. But some practical concerns.
First of all this is a state number

1405
01:53:04,35 --> 01:53:10,89
a highway so it is I can just about assure
you that that some sort of permission

1406
01:53:11,44 --> 01:53:16,90
from the state highway district is required
because we business activities on state

1407
01:53:16,91 --> 01:53:22,02
numbered highways Secondly I'm not
sure what statute you'd ask for

1408
01:53:22,03 --> 01:53:24,94
a business license but it's not
a business license it's not

1409
01:53:24,95 --> 01:53:30,58
a deviate because those are issued by the
Town Clerk not the selectmen but this may

1410
01:53:30,59 --> 01:53:35,19
be regulated under another statute and I
don't know what it is because I've never

1411
01:53:35,20 --> 01:53:39,76
had any dealings with it so I think one of
the questions you need to look at then.

1412
01:53:41,29 --> 01:53:44,30
Is what statute is this
license under I know there is

1413
01:53:44,31 --> 01:53:51,23
a statute for pedicabs I just don't know
what it is it may be. The licensing

1414
01:53:51,44 --> 01:53:57,11
under Chapter one forty that covers cabs
Hackney carriages as they're called and if

1415
01:53:57,12 --> 01:54:01,31
it is. Then unfortunately
there's going to have to be

1416
01:54:01,32 --> 01:54:06,10
a lot more information put together in the
application to you to the board because

1417
01:54:06,11 --> 01:54:09,67
this would fall far short of
what would be required for

1418
01:54:09,68 --> 01:54:15,56
a hackney license and I'm pretty sure I've
seen on those Hackney licenses licenses

1419
01:54:15,98 --> 01:54:16,25
and it's

1420
01:54:16,26 --> 01:54:23,45
a fairly elaborate process and the last
concern would be. This really needs

1421
01:54:23,46 --> 01:54:28,00
to be carefully vetted I think by members
of the members of the boards or who have

1422
01:54:28,01 --> 01:54:34,77
observed. This could be an exceptionally
complicated and potentially

1423
01:54:34,78 --> 01:54:40,52
dangerous activity. Given the constraints
out there and it has to be thought out I

1424
01:54:40,53 --> 01:54:44,96
think much more carefully than this
reflects frankly in of all that can be

1425
01:54:44,97 --> 01:54:45,99
accomplished it might be

1426
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:51,87
a good service and it might be might be
valuable last note I don't know what the

1427
01:54:51,88 --> 01:54:54,25
revenue potential for this
sort of thing is but with

1428
01:54:54,26 --> 01:55:01,12
a fleet of twenty five. This is running
over the state this is running over public

1429
01:55:01,13 --> 01:55:02,57
roads it's essentially

1430
01:55:02,72 --> 01:55:07,78
a franchise license for all intents and
purposes and that's required to be bid

1431
01:55:07,93 --> 01:55:09,22
under Chapter thirty B.

1432
01:55:10,16 --> 01:55:14,00
We cannot give an exclusive
franchise to any vendor without

1433
01:55:14,01 --> 01:55:18,07
a public bidding process if it were to
be the case that there were going to be

1434
01:55:18,08 --> 01:55:20,49
multiple pretty cab
services and it was under

1435
01:55:20,50 --> 01:55:26,44
a state statute we can do that but if it's
an exclusive franchise on it has to be

1436
01:55:26,45 --> 01:55:31,42
built under Chapter thirty big. Inspector
general was quite clear on that no.

1437
01:55:33,47 --> 01:55:38,44
So those are the cabbie outside have to
offer and I'd be happy to help you know go

1438
01:55:38,45 --> 01:55:38,88
through that

1439
01:55:38,89 --> 01:55:43,39
a little more detail outside of the meeting
if you've got some questions OK Thank

1440
01:55:43,40 --> 01:55:49,79
you thanks thanks ed. Q I
want to go after the I

1441
01:55:50,21 --> 01:55:50,67
expressed.

1442
01:56:02,28 --> 01:56:09,25
I would. Like breakdown. To really

1443
01:56:09,26 --> 01:56:14,33
which is that we don't object right now.
Because if we don't have not we do nothing

1444
01:56:14,34 --> 01:56:20,44
it automatically takes effect. I make most
of that we do not let it go we handle

1445
01:56:20,45 --> 01:56:26,81
that by just not I think. We support it
maybe our board is only role in these

1446
01:56:26,82 --> 01:56:29,57
lights on these you know this is just
to say we don't think that appropriate

1447
01:56:29,58 --> 01:56:36,41
location is that week. I moved to

1448
01:56:36,42 --> 01:56:43,18
approve the war from a state election
second I. Don't think it. Would be

1449
01:56:43,19 --> 01:56:44,65
a doll and I.

1450
01:56:51,43 --> 01:56:56,08
And. I have an old i know i might be.

1451
01:56:59,24 --> 01:56:59,99
A citizen wrote

1452
01:57:00,00 --> 01:57:06,53
a letter to the editor this past week
regarding the two weeks ago. And in the

1453
01:57:06,54 --> 01:57:11,15
letter they stated their shock with the
new tax rate the short notice for such an

1454
01:57:11,16 --> 01:57:16,03
increase and they asked the Selectmen
to stand up and explain why we did not

1455
01:57:16,04 --> 01:57:21,03
implement they split tax rate. A split
tax rate charges commercial businesses

1456
01:57:21,04 --> 01:57:23,10
differently than homeowners usually at

1457
01:57:23,11 --> 01:57:28,13
a higher rate as suggested by the person
who wrote the letter I thought we were all

1458
01:57:28,14 --> 01:57:33,05
pretty clear last week about our positions
but since he's asked us to stand up I

1459
01:57:33,06 --> 01:57:36,98
thought I would at least end up personally
and explain to him first it was the

1460
01:57:36,99 --> 01:57:37,45
voters

1461
01:57:37,46 --> 01:57:41,68
a town meeting who approved the increased
spending levels which led to the higher

1462
01:57:41,69 --> 01:57:47,52
taxes we have over ten thousand registered
voters and yet about three percent

1463
01:57:47,53 --> 01:57:52,12
attend how meeting and make the decision
on the budget and subsequently the impact

1464
01:57:52,13 --> 01:57:58,43
on the taxes when you when you
look at what we did two weeks ago

1465
01:57:59,08 --> 01:58:03,86
two thirds of the tax increase was the
result of the spending at Springtown meeting

1466
01:58:04,64 --> 01:58:06,24
the selectmen had initiated

1467
01:58:06,25 --> 01:58:11,92
a debate long before town meeting on the
merits of level funding which would not

1468
01:58:11,93 --> 01:58:17,67
have raised by jets or taxes versus level
services which in fact raised budgets

1469
01:58:18,23 --> 01:58:24,26
people spoke for and against of the public
airing and a town meeting and isn't in

1470
01:58:24,27 --> 01:58:29,65
a democracy. Town Meeting overwhelmingly
supported level service and thus the

1471
01:58:29,66 --> 01:58:34,54
higher taxes one third of the tax increase
was the result of the high school

1472
01:58:34,55 --> 01:58:38,06
project which was again overwhelmingly
approved at town meeting and in

1473
01:58:38,07 --> 01:58:40,40
a Proposition two and a half override for

1474
01:58:40,41 --> 01:58:45,74
a debt exemption this should be no surprise
to anybody because everyone who voted

1475
01:58:45,75 --> 01:58:49,20
for the high school project knew what the
tax impact was going to be and I'm going

1476
01:58:49,21 --> 01:58:53,91
to vote for the debt exemption knew what
it was going to be and those who voted for

1477
01:58:53,92 --> 01:58:57,73
the library this last time know that the
taxes would go up further to cover the

1478
01:58:57,74 --> 01:58:59,94
cost of the library project we have

1479
01:58:59,95 --> 01:59:03,99
a strong commercial base in Foxborough which
pays twenty five percent of the town's

1480
01:59:04,00 --> 01:59:08,48
expenses these commercial businesses
don't have the opportunity devoted town

1481
01:59:08,49 --> 01:59:10,79
meeting or to vote for or against

1482
01:59:10,80 --> 01:59:15,17
a dead exemption nor do they benefit
directly from the high school or the library

1483
01:59:15,18 --> 01:59:21,14
projects despite that they pay their fair
share in taxes would also remind the

1484
01:59:21,15 --> 01:59:24,36
public that some of us on the board of
selectmen supported an effort to raise the

1485
01:59:24,37 --> 01:59:28,91
meals tax with the proviso that the full
amount raised be used to reduce property

1486
01:59:28,92 --> 01:59:34,35
taxes as an offset to reduce state aid.
I didn't think that the increase would

1487
01:59:34,36 --> 01:59:38,62
negatively impact restaurants or those
that dine out and that the revenue in this

1488
01:59:38,63 --> 01:59:40,73
case would have reduced the
tax increase by almost

1489
01:59:40,74 --> 01:59:46,29
a third but again in our democracy people
came to town meeting they spoke at town

1490
01:59:46,30 --> 01:59:51,28
meeting and they voted against the meals
tax I voted for the single tax rate for

1491
01:59:51,29 --> 01:59:57,10
two reasons first and foremost I don't
think it's fair for homeowners to vote to

1492
01:59:57,11 --> 02:00:03,12
increase spending to vote to debt exemptions
and then expect commercial businesses

1493
02:00:03,13 --> 02:00:03,46
to pay

1494
02:00:03,47 --> 02:00:08,17
a disproportionate share of those increases
since those commercial businesses are

1495
02:00:08,18 --> 02:00:13,74
unable to vote for those items Second I
believe we need our commercial businesses

1496
02:00:13,75 --> 02:00:18,62
to thrive we need them to create and
maintain jobs and to continue to pay their

1497
02:00:18,63 --> 02:00:22,90
fair share which is roughly twenty five
percent of the tax bill I didn't think

1498
02:00:22,91 --> 02:00:28,09
a split tax rate was fair or appropriate
and I thought it would hurt all businesses

1499
02:00:28,29 --> 02:00:33,13
and thus hurt the community the town's
website has the entire presentation from

1500
02:00:33,14 --> 02:00:37,52
last week it shows real estate values for
the last last ten years and you'll see

1501
02:00:37,53 --> 02:00:42,41
that according to the assessor's home values
have not plummeted as suggested in the

1502
02:00:42,42 --> 02:00:47,15
article but you'll see that information
you'll see who the largest tax payers are

1503
02:00:47,44 --> 02:00:51,83
you'll see how our rates compared to all
the surrounding towns and so much more

1504
02:00:51,84 --> 02:00:56,51
information so I encourage the writer of
that article as well as anyone else to go

1505
02:00:56,52 --> 02:01:00,89
to the town's website and to see the
information for themselves I thought the Board

1506
02:01:00,90 --> 02:01:04,77
of Selectmen was quite clear and I just
want to clarify it for those that read the

1507
02:01:04,78 --> 02:01:11,62
article. And then. On you or I'm

1508
02:01:11,63 --> 02:01:16,20
so good that I got her on all business we're
going to meet again with border water

1509
02:01:16,21 --> 02:01:22,10
and sewer on the negotiations I've asked
Linda to put it on an executive session

1510
02:01:22,11 --> 02:01:27,09
for the our next meeting and will and the
negotiating committee will have an update

1511
02:01:27,10 --> 02:01:31,69
for the combined water sewer and voice alike
in can we at that time also since its

1512
02:01:31,70 --> 02:01:37,46
executive session it would be for this
purpose anyway have Town Council Lynn on the

1513
02:01:38,02 --> 02:01:39,54
employee issue that we talked about

1514
02:01:39,55 --> 02:01:44,17
a month just on the whether or not the
badgering issue that we talked about

1515
02:01:46,27 --> 02:01:53,25
your call that yes. I can
check and see if you will be

1516
02:01:53,63 --> 02:01:57,18
here and the reason he's
out of the country for

1517
02:01:57,19 --> 02:02:03,39
a couple weeks yeah. Because I do think
in fairness to the employee and actually

1518
02:02:03,40 --> 02:02:07,92
the town council I think we have to have
we can do it I think it's them in there

1519
02:02:07,98 --> 02:02:11,52
but I don't we feel confident we'll have

1520
02:02:11,53 --> 02:02:14,80
a proposal for your for for that meeting
so that's what I want to spend most of our

1521
02:02:14,81 --> 02:02:19,62
time and we could I don't know I think I
should I think it's critically important I

1522
02:02:19,62 --> 02:02:24,16
also think to you know well I said I think
I think we need to have that if there is

1523
02:02:24,16 --> 02:02:31,01
. Another piece of all business how
are we doing with getting. Say the

1524
02:02:31,02 --> 02:02:32,23
applicant the M.B.T.

1525
02:02:32,24 --> 02:02:38,73
In front of us to us mean the selectmen in
the town well on the merits of the train

1526
02:02:38,74 --> 02:02:43,93
station proposal and right now
reaching out to them China. I'm.

1527
02:02:45,74 --> 02:02:52,52
Just guessing my my take
is that it's. It's just

1528
02:02:53,09 --> 02:03:00,08
what it is is feasible. That
it's fairly new you know just

1529
02:03:00,09 --> 02:03:03,47
came out. I'd like to give It's.

1530
02:03:06,69 --> 02:03:09,71
Due. Kind of think in

1531
02:03:09,72 --> 02:03:15,65
a little bit. Kevin is going to reach
out to the community of the law people

1532
02:03:16,56 --> 02:03:22,17
and and speak to him about his concerns
it's not right but I think right now I'm

1533
02:03:23,08 --> 02:03:28,54
not sure what information they can give me
because it's basically he said you know

1534
02:03:28,54 --> 02:03:35,33
. Yeah and one thing though
wouldn't that it brings up in the

1535
02:03:35,33 --> 02:03:38,51
executive summary is the funding
you know on that for there's

1536
02:03:38,53 --> 02:03:39,89
a funding issue where they do propose

1537
02:03:39,90 --> 02:03:46,53
a one proposal to fix it. And. You
know what might be worthwhile

1538
02:03:46,54 --> 02:03:47,32
is having

1539
02:03:47,33 --> 02:03:51,83
a public discussion and inviting Barney
Frank is an example was our it was our

1540
02:03:51,84 --> 02:03:58,16
state representative our of our representative
in Congress. He has as well as our

1541
02:03:58,17 --> 02:04:02,45
senator and our state folks because maybe
there's federal state money that's

1542
02:04:02,46 --> 02:04:07,32
available to do some things and what would
be helpful is to know exactly the scope

1543
02:04:07,33 --> 02:04:12,33
of the project the alternatives the
feasibility the timeline and whether or not

1544
02:04:12,43 --> 02:04:15,99
there's any money to do it for instance
if there's no state money there's no

1545
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:18,60
federal money there's no
towel money then it makes

1546
02:04:18,94 --> 02:04:23,100
a dialogue fairly sure if On the other
hand that in the transportation bill in

1547
02:04:24,01 --> 02:04:27,74
Congress there's money to do some
things that maybe the conversation goes

1548
02:04:27,75 --> 02:04:32,24
a different direction so I just think it
would be helpful at some point if we could

1549
02:04:32,25 --> 02:04:32,50
have

1550
02:04:32,51 --> 02:04:39,40
a public discussion invite some of our
elected officials. And just talk about the

1551
02:04:39,41 --> 02:04:43,66
different alternatives the the pluses the
minuses and where funding might or might

1552
02:04:43,67 --> 02:04:50,52
not be right and I think that yeah
I mean to be polite States and

1553
02:04:50,58 --> 02:04:56,85
that information that. I mean it's
not do you think it's it's the only.

1554
02:04:58,22 --> 02:05:03,42
You know it was just
that. Last month or so.

1555
02:05:07,49 --> 02:05:12,86
You know I guess for me you know I read
can't I read every word of it hell my gosh

1556
02:05:12,87 --> 02:05:19,77
how boring however. Is just to
be nice if someone could come

1557
02:05:19,78 --> 02:05:21,08
and just give us

1558
02:05:21,09 --> 02:05:27,26
a better context I don't even know what
necessarily our role if any is in that kind

1559
02:05:27,27 --> 02:05:31,13
of context I mean it's you know not
interested and it's really easy it's not like

1560
02:05:31,14 --> 02:05:31,26
it's

1561
02:05:31,27 --> 02:05:35,92
a vote that OK we all would like this and
you're not even close to being at that

1562
02:05:36,19 --> 02:05:42,75
point right now but. If we
wanted to better understand

1563
02:05:43,66 --> 02:05:50,11
the report itself you know I can pass
and continue to reach out but I see the

1564
02:05:50,12 --> 02:05:54,48
reason why I also think it's important
is that any decision that would be made

1565
02:05:54,49 --> 02:06:00,07
would be the wheels of government grind
slowly would not be as and when it did not

1566
02:06:00,08 --> 02:06:00,54
even that just

1567
02:06:00,55 --> 02:06:04,94
a timeline and with the with the further
development we'd all like to see on Route

1568
02:06:04,95 --> 02:06:11,28
one including office space etc. This might
be an integral part of making some of

1569
02:06:11,29 --> 02:06:18,18
those pieces work so I think that.
Understanding. The route one area that the

1570
02:06:18,19 --> 02:06:22,13
potential development in one area how the
train station would fit in there where

1571
02:06:22,14 --> 02:06:25,32
the funding might be might be
it might be worthwhile having

1572
02:06:25,33 --> 02:06:28,84
a separate evening just
talking about it because as

1573
02:06:28,85 --> 02:06:31,93
a board we've talked about more strategic
planning and thinking further on the

1574
02:06:31,94 --> 02:06:36,98
future even if someone came tomorrow and
said here's the money it's probably

1575
02:06:36,99 --> 02:06:40,68
several years before that could ever get
done and so because we are and we've

1576
02:06:40,69 --> 02:06:41,50
talked as a as

1577
02:06:41,51 --> 02:06:47,23
a board about developing as much along
Route one as we can to increase that

1578
02:06:47,50 --> 02:06:53,20
commercial vs residential piece on the tax
burden it might be worthwhile to fight

1579
02:06:53,21 --> 02:06:57,09
the planning board and all those that
would be impacted by that potential

1580
02:06:57,10 --> 02:07:02,44
development and how this might impact that
and and. You know start talking about it

1581
02:07:02,45 --> 02:07:03,27
but it's certainly

1582
02:07:03,28 --> 02:07:09,32
a long term issue. I think also hearing
from you know certainly they did reach out

1583
02:07:09,33 --> 02:07:15,96
to us and expressed some concerns you know
early on in the process it sounds and.

1584
02:07:18,35 --> 02:07:24,99
You know how to understand you
know what role we can play and in

1585
02:07:25,13 --> 02:07:28,49
terms of doing anything to
address it you will get

1586
02:07:28,50 --> 02:07:33,35
a copy of the report yes OK the executive
summary you have much easier to read than

1587
02:07:33,37 --> 02:07:37,80
the whole you know I thought give it away
is it as much fun as the house of Mr get

1588
02:07:37,81 --> 02:07:42,100
mitigated it works actually I think you
know I guess that's why I'm so mad

1589
02:07:43,01 --> 02:07:49,64
authorial for me is that. You know I've
heard actually not too many people are

1590
02:07:49,64 --> 02:07:53,19
talking to be quite honest with you that
would mention it to me but what I have

1591
02:07:53,19 --> 02:07:58,42
heard is actually there's more negative
than positive and I don't actually have an

1592
02:07:58,43 --> 02:08:04,58
opinion yet but I think it might be merit
to both sides you know. When the time is

1593
02:08:04,59 --> 02:08:11,21
appropriate and right and that's the board's
call. I would strongly urge the board

1594
02:08:11,22 --> 02:08:18,19
to have as much public discussion about
it having been through. Ten years of the

1595
02:08:18,20 --> 02:08:23,60
proposed train route and Easton. And then
coming in on the tail end of one that was

1596
02:08:23,61 --> 02:08:26,09
actually built and hang on and having

1597
02:08:26,10 --> 02:08:31,35
a pretty good idea of how the process
is these things tend to be frankly very

1598
02:08:31,36 --> 02:08:35,53
controversial and the public very much
wants to weigh in and I know you want to

1599
02:08:35,54 --> 02:08:39,76
hear and they have the say but I think
it's probably premature at this point that

1600
02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:46,32
that report is so new. And I think you
will need time to read it and adjusted and

1601
02:08:46,33 --> 02:08:48,82
then at some point you probably
want the team to come out and give

1602
02:08:48,83 --> 02:08:49,97
a presentation in

1603
02:08:49,98 --> 02:08:55,44
a large room high school auditorium or
something and I think it's over asking you

1604
02:08:55,45 --> 02:09:00,28
know you think let's get to that the next
month or two but let's So yes I mean Jack

1605
02:09:00,29 --> 02:09:06,30
you. I don't think I'll see what their
thoughts are and I you know I agree with you

1606
02:09:06,31 --> 02:09:11,12
I think that you know we had a month
to read it if we have a meeting in

1607
02:09:11,13 --> 02:09:14,91
a month or two you know we ought to have
the planning board there we ought to have

1608
02:09:14,95 --> 02:09:15,26
you know

1609
02:09:15,27 --> 02:09:18,11
a very wide audience and we are make sure
that lots of people know we're going to

1610
02:09:18,12 --> 02:09:21,93
have the discussion and have it at the high
school auditorium and I think it's just

1611
02:09:21,94 --> 02:09:26,97
it's good information for people to understand
that the three options that they had

1612
02:09:26,98 --> 02:09:31,36
in there and why and you know our fourth
option is to do nothing but at least some

1613
02:09:31,37 --> 02:09:35,22
to you know start the dialogue and make
sure people are aware of it understand what

1614
02:09:35,23 --> 02:09:38,83
the issues are and what the timeline would
be and where the funding would come from

1615
02:09:38,84 --> 02:09:42,100
and who would have to fund it whether is
even feasible there's no sense having

1616
02:09:43,01 --> 02:09:46,51
rumors flying around about something that
may not even be feasible after we met I

1617
02:09:46,52 --> 02:09:52,53
mean so feasibility plan that's right yeah
just as an aside that if I understood

1618
02:09:52,54 --> 02:09:56,81
the three options they don't all I
mean it's not like we're going to have

1619
02:09:56,82 --> 02:10:01,13
a great you know train station here with
you know full service that they're all

1620
02:10:01,74 --> 02:10:07,13
somewhat marginal I think right and if
someone takes the train you know you know

1621
02:10:07,17 --> 02:10:11,22
you can relate to the way that they've
got it scheduled right yeah I'd probably

1622
02:10:11,23 --> 02:10:17,90
keep going to Sharon to get him
there or anything else you

1623
02:10:18,17 --> 02:10:25,15
move to adjourn second. Favor I
think you me. That you have to

1624
02:10:25,16 --> 02:10:25,89
thank you thanks.